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ChumBucket

Re: Vans
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2015, 08:14:52 am »
You can get a fantastic van for 8k private sale and the possibility of not paying vat also. You just need to put a little effort in.

I got a near mint 60 plate Citroen Dispatch 12 months ago for £3750 no VAT. ;)

Walter Mitty

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Re: Vans
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2015, 09:23:59 am »
You can get a fantastic van for 8k private sale and the possibility of not paying vat also. You just need to put a little effort in.

I got a near mint 60 plate Citroen Dispatch 12 months ago for £3750 no VAT. ;)

It's certainly possible.  If you already have a working van, you have the time to shop around more.  Next time I change my van, I'll make sure I don't wait until the previous one has stopped working.

Darranvps

Re: Vans
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2015, 10:47:45 am »
Put £8k down agains BRAND NEW - bigger than you want so you can grow your business!

Frankybadboy

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Re: Vans
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2015, 06:12:15 pm »

8weekly

Re: Vans
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2015, 06:45:51 pm »

ascjim

Re: Vans
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2015, 06:59:03 pm »
I always get 3 year old vans from dealers. Still like new, but you don't mind too much if you bump it.

You might as well get something nice and long lasting and pay a bit more for it., don't mess about.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Vans
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2015, 07:36:03 pm »
just over but hes a good sellar
http://www.vansgb.com/stock/listing/vauxhall-vivaro-2-0-2-9t-swb/
Cheers Frankiy, nice van - I've emailed.
brought my van from them and never had a problems

Frankybadboy

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Re: Vans
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2015, 07:53:53 pm »
did you get reply ?
you need to speak to bryan


Scrimble

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Re: Vans
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2015, 02:43:17 pm »
8 weekly, can I ask you why you are going for a 2man set up in a vivaro?  you said its to be a second van so are you employing 2 men to work out of it doing residential window cleaning?

that vivaro van is a 2700 so has about a 1000kg payload which is the same as the fiat doblo maxi I put the link up for which you dismissed? it also has the same bhp

and with going to a second van surely you will be claiming back the vat in the near future?

8weekly

Re: Vans
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2015, 04:37:42 pm »
8 weekly, can I ask you why you are going for a 2man set up in a vivaro?  you said its to be a second van so are you employing 2 men to work out of it doing residential window cleaning?

that vivaro van is a 2700 so has about a 1000kg payload which is the same as the fiat doblo maxi I put the link up for which you dismissed? it also has the same bhp

and with going to a second van surely you will be claiming back the vat in the near future?
Didn't get that one but bought a 290 Transit Custom with a payload of 1160. You are correct about VAT. I went limited in April so that deferred VAT registration until I hit the threshold this year. At that point I can claim back the VAT on the one I'm buying. Regardless of that, if I could have saved the VAT right now I would have been happier than claiming back later.

It won't initially be a two man van, but it will be eventually and occasionally in the short term.

http://www.autoplaza.co.uk/ford-transit-centre/used-vans/4875599-ford-transit-custom-custom-290-lr-100-ps/

The salesman is is friend and I got £500 off the price plus 4.9% on the balance. No aircon though. Maybe for the next one.



 

KS Cleaning

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Re: Vans
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2015, 08:23:56 pm »
8 weekly, can I ask you why you are going for a 2man set up in a vivaro?  you said its to be a second van so are you employing 2 men to work out of it doing residential window cleaning?

that vivaro van is a 2700 so has about a 1000kg payload which is the same as the fiat doblo maxi I put the link up for which you dismissed? it also has the same bhp

and with going to a second van surely you will be claiming back the vat in the near future?
Didn't get that one but bought a 290 Transit Custom with a payload of 1160. You are correct about VAT. I went limited in April so that deferred VAT registration until I hit the threshold this year. At that point I can claim back the VAT on the one I'm buying. Regardless of that, if I could have saved the VAT right now I would have been happier than claiming back later.

It won't initially be a two man van, but it will be eventually and occasionally in the short term.

http://www.autoplaza.co.uk/ford-transit-centre/used-vans/4875599-ford-transit-custom-custom-290-lr-100-ps/

The salesman is is friend and I got £500 off the price plus 4.9% on the balance. No aircon though. Maybe for the next one.
4.9% on the balance aint great and there will probably be an arrangement fee added on as well, have you worked out how much you are paying in interest and other fees? As I said in an earlier post bank loans are around 3.5% at the moment and there are no additional fees, I took out a 14K loan recently for a car and I will only be paying £508 in interest over 2 years.......Oh and using a bank loan the van will  belongs to you not the finance company.

8weekly

Re: Vans
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2015, 08:31:24 pm »
8 weekly, can I ask you why you are going for a 2man set up in a vivaro?  you said its to be a second van so are you employing 2 men to work out of it doing residential window cleaning?

that vivaro van is a 2700 so has about a 1000kg payload which is the same as the fiat doblo maxi I put the link up for which you dismissed? it also has the same bhp

and with going to a second van surely you will be claiming back the vat in the near future?
Didn't get that one but bought a 290 Transit Custom with a payload of 1160. You are correct about VAT. I went limited in April so that deferred VAT registration until I hit the threshold this year. At that point I can claim back the VAT on the one I'm buying. Regardless of that, if I could have saved the VAT right now I would have been happier than claiming back later.

It won't initially be a two man van, but it will be eventually and occasionally in the short term.

http://www.autoplaza.co.uk/ford-transit-centre/used-vans/4875599-ford-transit-custom-custom-290-lr-100-ps/

The salesman is is friend and I got £500 off the price plus 4.9% on the balance. No aircon though. Maybe for the next one.
4.9% on the balance aint great and there will probably be an arrangement fee added on as well, have you worked out how much you are paying in interest and other fees? As I said in an earlier post bank loans are around 3.5% at the moment and there are no additional fees, I took out a 10K loan recently for a car and I will only be paying £508 in interest over 2 years.......Oh and using a bank loan the van will  belongs to you not the finance company.
As a limited company banking with Nat West the only option was finance through Lombard Asset Finance. Companies can't get personal loans. Lombard were offering 6.8%.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Vans
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2015, 08:45:07 pm »
6.8% :o :o 4.9% doesn't seem so bad after all. Good luck with the new van, I have a custom myself, great vans.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Vans
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2015, 07:25:09 pm »
just bought two ex aa transits  vans from bca both on 11 regs both had under 60k on the clock give 5k +vat for them full history , all new everything and because they carry passengers they mint inside to limited to 67 and 6 speed  ;D

Scrimble

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Re: Vans
« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2015, 08:01:57 am »
8weekly what sort of business are you running? residential window cleaning or are you more large commercial or are you concentrating on other things pressure washing etc?

8weekly

Re: Vans
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2015, 08:27:00 am »
8weekly what sort of business are you running? residential window cleaning or are you more large commercial or are you concentrating on other things pressure washing etc?
90% residential, but will be looking to increase the percentage of commercial once the second van frees me some time to cold call. I have no interest in pressure washing or gutter machines.

The strategy with the vans is that as work comes in the vans move to two man until they reach breaking point at which time I buy another van and it reverts to one man until it builds again and so on.  So, 850 litre tank (filled to 750 usually with two men or 500 with one man). 1,000 payload is a bit light. Are you on a commission?  ;D

Scrimble

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Re: Vans
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2015, 09:42:12 am »
comission lol no I was just interested in your plan, I actually run 3x combo vans which are about 775kg payloads with 500l custom baffled tanks 1 man per van (no they are not overweight before anyone says they are), 2 man in 1 van isn't as profitable in my business and we are 95 percent residential, I don't see the point in big vans with window cleaning they are just not needed

Walter Mitty

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Re: Vans
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2015, 10:37:52 am »
I actually run 3x combo vans which are about 775kg payloads with 500l custom baffled tanks 1 man per van (no they are not overweight before anyone says they are)

I don't doubt that it can be done if equipment is kept to a minimum, fuel tank is always well below full.  There might even be a case for removing the spare wheel so long as another van can nip back to base for it if a puncture occurs.
I would love to be a fly on the wall at one of your interviews though :) .

First question on the application form:  How much do you weigh?  A set of scales in the corner of the interview room.

Contract of employment:  All staff must take a dump before entering a work vehicle.  No eating at work.  Customer payments are only to be accepted as banknotes or cheques; all coins must be refused :)

Scrimble

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Re: Vans
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2015, 06:40:04 pm »
the vans are not overweight when the tanks are full, the fuel tank is full and all equipment is on board and the worker, checked on a  weighbridge,