[Amazin]

The top 2 windows:S I don't think I can lean the ladder against it, I won't be able to reach it with my hands. What is the best thing to do?

[samson]

Invest in a WFP setup, and join the 21st century 

[marc]

With wfp its no longer hard to reach :-)

[Matt.]

Put the ladders above the windows, u will easy reach then top ones and then drop it back down to under windows for bottom ones if ya can't reach in first climb.

[Walter Mitty]

It was windows like those that helped "encourage" me into WFP.
The one above the bay needs the ladder extended to rest on the brickwork above the window - to reduce the angle.  For pity's sake, have ladder mitts on the end of the ladder to reduce the risk of sideways slip.  The lower half of that wndow might be tricky as it's a longer distance to reach in.  I have even been known to do windows like that with a foot on the sill and the other on the ladder.  DON'T DO THAT!
Even if full WFP is currently unaffordable, at least treat yourself to a backpack, a cheap poleand find a local window cleaner who will supply you with enough water just to do the difficult windows.
Backpack maybe £100 with the VAT.  You should be able to pick up a 20 foot fibreglass pole with brush for another £100 or so.  The pole will not be great for that kind of price but if you only want it for the odd window, that won't matter.   A couple hundred quid or so to spare you from the possibility of serious injury or untimely death.

[samson]

Got me thinking about our own work, and if we had to do it with ladders. . . . . . would rather stick needles in my eyes, while swimming across a river full of crocodiles 

[paulben]

If money is real tight harris pole and hand pump garden sprayer

[dazmond]

i used to use a trad pole(unger teleplus with a vice versa and a fixiclamp for detailing) for awkward windows when 100% trad.more time consuming than wfp but got the job done.sometimes i had to use an angle adaptor to close out at the bottom of the windows with deep ledges so used a normal squeegee and mop rather than the vice versa.thing is i had to bring the pole down 3 times to clean it(mop/squeegee/detail).plus you couldnt really clean the frames effectively.

backpack/pole/little foldaway trolley,bungee,a couple of 25l barrels is what you need mate to start you off wfp and means to purify your water.(di/ro)

[M & C Window Cleaning]

It was windows like those that helped "encourage" me into WFP.
The one above the bay needs the ladder extended to rest on the brickwork above the window - to reduce the angle.  For pity's sake, have ladder mitts on the end of the ladder to reduce the risk of sideways slip.  The lower half of that wndow might be tricky as it's a longer distance to reach in.  I have even been known to do windows like that with a foot on the sill and the other on the ladder.  DON'T DO THAT!
Even if full WFP is currently unaffordable, at least treat yourself to a backpack, a cheap poleand find a local window cleaner who will supply you with enough water just to do the difficult windows.
Backpack maybe £100 with the VAT.  You should be able to pick up a 20 foot fibreglass pole with brush for another £100 or so.  The pole will not be great for that kind of price but if you only want it for the odd window, that won't matter.   A couple hundred quid or so to spare you from the possibility of serious injury or untimely death.

I second this.

I used to do 'interesting' and probably unsafe things with ladders to reach windows like those that I would never recommend.
I recommend going wfp if you possibly can. I dismissed it for years till I had no choice. Once I started I didn't look back. Even if I could now, I'd never go back. With wfp you'll look at jobs like those, smile and carry on without a care other than to do a good job.

[Walter Mitty]

To add to my earlier post, an additional benefitr with backpack and cheap pole is that you will be able to clean windows above conservatories.  I've gained a number of jobs from trad cleaners due to this.

[simonr]

dead easy mate , on left hand window just put your ladder on the top left corner 1 rail on brickwork other rail in the window return, go to the right hand corner of the other window & do the same,  your ladder cant slip at all,  i do a window like this every month i have to say though i do the rest of the house wfp

[Ian101]

piece of pish .... my first round in Hoole Chester had all houses like this ....

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merlin-industrial.co.uk%2Faccess-equipment%2Fladders%2F921-ladder-and-steps-accessories&ei=J7PJVYzJF8HeUcONtKgE&bvm=bv.99804247,d.d24&psig=AFQjCNGLJxGnqDgo28Jbma6fEPjly9la-w&ust=1439368374052161

ladder stand off

[samson]

Really can't understand why people are still using ladders when there is a safer, and better cleaning method 

[Ian101]

Really can't understand why people are still using ladders when there is a safer, and better cleaning method 

take the falling off angle away, the earnings part, the harder work, the wfp complications / expense ......  I much preferred trad (in the nice weather) 

[lal]

It was windows like those that helped "encourage" me into WFP.
The one above the bay needs the ladder extended to rest on the brickwork above the window - to reduce the angle.  For pity's sake, have ladder mitts on the end of the ladder to reduce the risk of sideways slip.  The lower half of that wndow might be tricky as it's a longer distance to reach in.  I have even been known to do windows like that with a foot on the sill and the other on the ladder.  DON'T DO THAT!
Even if full WFP is currently unaffordable, at least treat yourself to a backpack, a cheap poleand find a local window cleaner who will supply you with enough water just to do the difficult windows.
Backpack maybe £100 with the VAT.  You should be able to pick up a 20 foot fibreglass pole with brush for another £100 or so.  The pole will not be great for that kind of price but if you only want it for the odd window, that won't matter.   A couple hundred quid or so to spare you from the possibility of serious injury or untimely death.

I second this.

I used to do 'interesting' and probably unsafe things with ladders to reach windows like those that I would never recommend.
I recommend going wfp if you possibly can. I dismissed it for years till I had no choice. Once I started I didn't look back. Even if I could now, I'd never go back. With wfp you'll look at jobs like those, smile and carry on without a care other than to do a good job.

I can relate to everything you have said here, good post.
lal

[Smurf]

You will find most domestic jobs you get asked to quote will be awkward to do one way or another using trad methods be it from ladders or by trad pole.

Regarding using ladders some jobs are fine to do ladder sets when it's dry. However surfaces you set the ladder on can become slippery which becomes an issue so it's easy to start taking risks to get the job done.  Old school trad cleaners will think nothing of setting ladders up a weird angles and tile walking too.

A lot of trad guy's that get into wfp work would have had a near miss or two or even a fall at some point including myself.  Most new to wfp  start off doing tops then soon realise it's easier to do the lot by wfp so end up with a van mount eventually.

Going wfp is a no brainer if you ask me as it also opens up new revenue streams too.

[Amazin]

backpack/pole/little foldaway trolley,bungee,a couple of 25l barrels is what you need mate to start you off wfp and means to purify your water.(di/ro)

wait, are you saying they come with a mini purification system with them? wow, I need to look into it then!

You will find most domestic jobs you get asked to quote will be awkward to do one way or another using trad methods be it from ladders or by trad pole.

Regarding using ladders some jobs are fine to do ladder sets when it's dry. However surfaces you set the ladder on can become slippery which becomes an issue so it's easy to start taking risks to get the job done.  Old school trad cleaners will think nothing of setting ladders up a weird angles and tile walking too.

A lot of trad guy's that get into wfp work would have had a near miss or two or even a fall at some point including myself.  Most new to wfp  start off doing tops then soon realise it's easier to do the lot by wfp so end up with a van mount eventually.

Going wfp is a no brainer if you ask me as it also opens up new revenue streams too.

yeah I know, its only matter of time before I got WFP fully but now I need to make some money. I charging £40 to clean the whole house first time then £30 afterwards. hope I'm charging enough for all the hussle of climbing ladders!

[Smurf]

If you happen to live in a soft water are then depending on the tap water tds you may not even need to use an ro/di as a di system only would do.

Treat yourself to a none fake HM Digital TDS-3 Handheld Meter With Carrying Case first to test it as you will need to get one anyway. http://www.daqua.co.uk/testmeters.htm

[stan stansfield]

dead easy mate , on left hand window just put your ladder on the top left corner 1 rail on brickwork other rail in the window return, go to the right hand corner of the other window & do the same,  your ladder cant slip at all,  i do a window like this every month i have to say though i do the rest of the house wfp

thats the way to do them,lads around here take the rubbers out of the ladder and push pieces of wood in,which stick out 10 inch,this helps get the ladder in the corner better

[sunshine windows]

If you're happy staying trad for a while, then invest in a decent 'A' frame pointer ladder. You can position these practically anywhere on or around the window.