[samson]

Found someone who is going to do some leafleting, only around 14 hours a week to start, but what are the limits on NI, and do i just need to get a receipt for the money I pay him ?        Do I need to inform HMRC ?

Thanks for any advice 

[Kev Martin]

If you want to offset it against your business the answer is Yes Yes Yes if you call me I will talk you through it.  I am employing  my Grandchildren  for a few hours over the summer holidays  and I have had to inform HMRC they are 12, 14, & 15

[Smudger]

Take them on as self employed, they give you an invoice each week for the hours done/qty delivered you pay it, it's then up to them if they wish to declare the income.

If your gonna do paye then you will need to do all the relevant paperwork inc employers liability etc...

Darran

[samson]

He told me is self employed, but claiming benefits and says he allowed to earn £70 before it effects them ! 

[Smudger]

Not your concern mate providing you get a receipt and show it in your accounts

Darran

[Smudger]

At 14 hours p/w he's going to earn over £70 anyway

Darran

[samson]

At 14 hours p/w he's going to earn over £70 anyway

Darran

The arrangement we spoke about was for him to deliver 2000 a week, and for me to pay £35 per 1000, so hours not really an issue, I was just theorising how long it would take 

[samson]

Taking a bit of a gamble really, but told him I want to know which area he has covered, and then I would do spot checks !
If it goes ok, will look for another person on similar terms.

[samson]

Thanks for the advice by the way 

[Smudger]

Then self employed it is, if your paying per thousand.

We pay £50 per thousand delivered plus a £5 lead bonus per job we get, this seem to focus minds on delivering every last leaflet 

Darran

[samson]

To be honest I am getting a bit overwhelmed with the responses from the advert !      Must have heard about half a dozen sob stories, and I am thinking of opening up a refuge 

[Kev Martin]

It doesn't matter whether they are self employed or not you still should deduct CIS and get an authority to pay them from HMRC.  Ask them for their NI Number and call HMRC That is the law!  If you put the payments through the books any other way you may be liable for their tax.  Even Paper boys have to do this now with newsagents!

[samson]

Going to see the accountant tomorrow, so will see what he says 

[Kev Martin]

Going to see the accountant tomorrow, so will see what he says 

Well hopefully they will tell you the same as my expensive accountant

[samson]

Going to see the accountant tomorrow, so will see what he says 

Well hopefully they will tell you the same as my expensive accountant

Must be nice to be able use an expensive accountant 

[Kev Martin]

Why do you know any cheap ones?

[samson]

Why do you know any cheap ones?

I will answer that question later 

[samson]

Apparently if they earn under £112 a week you just need an invoice from them, any more and it gets costly !
Self employed is the way to go to start them off, and then if they are any good you can put them on the books. 

[samson]

The self employed bit is scaring everone off apart from the one lad who is starting next week 

[Smudger]

Good luck, let us know how it goes

Darran