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samson

paying a leafleter
« on: July 23, 2015, 07:12:10 pm »
Found a guy to deliver a few thousand leaflets a week, so wondered what the best pay structure would be best, what do you guys do ?

Thanks for any ideas  ;D

Paul Wisdom

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2015, 07:20:23 pm »
I have been thinking about doing this myself. Like you not sure about the best way to go about it.

Mike Halliday

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 07:53:00 pm »
How old is he?

How is he going to do it? You just drop off a box of leaflets and he does them in his own time?

Unless he is heavily monitored then it won't work ....... either you go with him , drop him off & pick him up or he accompanies you to work and leaflets as you clean

Anything else and he will last  a week then start taking the pi$$
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 08:37:45 pm »
I put an add on Gumtree, and had a few replies.  The guy is 53, and says he normally delivers 5000 a week, so sounds ideal.
Going to meet him Monday,  but just want to put together an agreement regarding payments so there is no misunderstandings.

Mike Halliday

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2015, 09:08:31 pm »
If he can deliver 5k a week then he is a seasoned leafleter so he will tell you the pay he wants and how he will work...... not the other way round.

But you really need to suss him out...... he might talk the talk but can he do the Macarena  ;)

5k......They don't call him Pinocchio do they? Is it a solus delivery or is he delivering for someone else as well
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2015, 11:44:41 pm »
If he can deliver 5k a week then he is a seasoned leafleter so he will tell you the pay he wants and how he will work...... not the other way round.

But you really need to suss him out...... he might talk the talk but can he do the Macarena  ;)

5k......They don't call him Pinocchio do they? Is it a solus delivery or is he delivering for someone else as well
Good pints,  thanks Mike.
Just had another 5 inquiries for the job  :o

Mike Halliday

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2015, 06:33:40 am »
I use gumtree to find guys, last time I had 48 replies in a month!

I always put in the ad that they need to reply with a work history, where they live, their age and what hours they can work. Any replies that ignore this request and just say " I will do it,how much is the pay?" Or other single line reply gets deleted straight away.

If you get a couple of good, flexible workers who can do minimum of 9hrs a week you will be onto a winner,
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2015, 07:34:44 am »
Thanks Mike, will be trial and error to start I think, but I am usually a good judge of character, so will see what happens.

davep

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2015, 08:42:23 pm »
I'm just starting 5000 per week, a5 double sided. I get them printed and a bathroom firm deliver them (they use one side and I have the other)

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2015, 08:32:41 am »
Got 9 nquiries, and after asking them to send details left with 3 and the one lad seeing Monday.
Had to laugh at one of them . . . Said he is starting a " mediation business " and wants a bit of cash . . . . What's that all about ?

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2015, 09:06:22 am »
The 53 year old has contacted me, and said the going rate is £30 per 1k over 10k . . . Seems a bit too cheap to me ?

Mike Halliday

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2015, 09:47:17 am »
6hrs to do 1000 (at least) he is working for a £5 an hour unless he is putting out another leaflet then he is getting £10 an hour if he is putting out 3 leaflets he is getting £15 an hr make sure it's just your leaflet.

Daves got the right idea with a shared leaflet it cuts the cost in half.

Really CIU should organise a system of pairing carpet cleaners and pressurewashers in the same area and let them do a shared  leaflets it would be very mutually beneficial 
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2015, 03:11:48 pm »
Maybe you should start doing this Mike, you have spotted a market.
You could have like a Co op type thing with local business working in tandem.

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2015, 03:18:00 pm »
Trouble with me is I suffer with depression
and I can go a while feeling good and making plans, but when the black dog appears It can take me out of action for several months !
Had a good 12 months, but always lurking in back of my mind is could strike any time.

BDCS

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2015, 08:59:54 am »
 I spoke to a leaflet firm and they monitered the delivery with a GPS monitor but none of them spoke English so I never bothered - apart from the fat controller who also had a car wash. Coronation st houses are easy to deliver to but lack a driveway

Rob@Blast off

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2015, 02:11:49 pm »
[quote author=Mike Halliday

Really CIU should organise a system of pairing carpet cleaners and pressurewashers in the same area and let them do a shared  leaflets it would be very mutually beneficial
[/quote]

Great idea

Mike Halliday

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Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2015, 04:02:21 pm »
Once you share a leaflet  the cost immediately halves which opens up a lot more delivery options.

Royal Mail charge £60/1k which is way too expensive for an individual but share the cost and you are paying £30 a 1000...... which is not a bad cost for gaurenteed delivery to every house in a postcode area which is good if you live in the countryside as even romote farmhouses and small hamlets get delivered too.

But my local paid for newspapers ( the Hull Daily Mail)  cost £28 a 1000 for machine insertion into the newspaper as they are printed.  this is £14 a 1000 for delivery, an amazing price.

If it was not for a small minded local pressure washing company near me I would never have got into pressure washing. I met him and told him the exact same thing I have typed above and said he would be daft not to share a leaflet with me ( carpet cleaning one side, him the other) he said "no thanks"

so the following week I bought the pressure washing kit, printed the leaflets and the rest is history
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2015, 04:30:52 pm »
Once you share a leaflet  the cost immediately halves which opens up a lot more delivery options.

Royal Mail charge £60/1k which is way too expensive for an individual but share the cost and you are paying £30 a 1000...... which is not a bad cost for gaurenteed delivery to every house in a postcode area which is good if you live in the countryside as even romote farmhouses and small hamlets get delivered too.

But my local paid for newspapers ( the Hull Daily Mail)  cost £28 a 1000 for machine insertion into the newspaper as they are printed.  this is £14 a 1000 for delivery, an amazing price.

If it was not for a small minded local pressure washing company near me I would never have got into pressure washing. I met him and told him the exact same thing I have typed above and said he would be daft not to share a leaflet with me ( carpet cleaning one side, him the other) he said "no thanks"

so the following week I bought the pressure washing kit, printed the leaflets and the rest is history
That is a good story Mike, is the guy still around ?

samson

Re: paying a leafleter
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2015, 04:36:36 pm »
Only thing I have to sort now is the accountant as I know nothing about the NI, and tax regulations !    Used to be around the £100
mark before you had to bother with the paperwork, but not clued up now  ::)roll