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Mike Halliday

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Conservatory valet
« on: July 04, 2015, 08:13:41 am »
Anyone come across Thompson Sanderson  who offer a nationwide conservatory valet?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PXtX1lM889Y

I'm guessing the are very expensive looking at what they do, I'm thinking of getting into conservatory roof cleaning but would need to charge a lot more than my local window cleaner who use WFP,  he cleans roofs for £40.

If this company can get high prices then I'm sure I could there are a lot of quality homes around me with roofs that need cleaning

Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

wpclean

Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2015, 08:22:26 am »
That is very professional video, the trouble with this type of cleaning is because of the prices you have to charge, the market is very limited !     We charge minimum £50 for a roof clean, and if you have the right gear, and chems, you can do them pretty quick.
Even with these low prices a lot of people who call think this is expensive  :o
If you want to expand your services Mike I would look at gutter cleaning, really is good money maker  ;D

robbo333

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2015, 04:55:12 pm »
Mike i've seen your posts and you're a top guy.
For me that video was bugger all to do with connie cleaning and more about marketing bo**ocks!
As you'd expect from a big company.
The reality is most custies want it to look as clean as it can, for the least amount of money. I did a fairly big roof today for £40 quid. If I pushed it I could have got £50. (my fault). But it's a good window cleaning custy of mine, the weather was good, their place is lovely with really good access all round. Peaceful (no dogs barking or kids) and to be honest I enjoyed the peace and tranquility.  Took me an hour. Fairly easy job. Custy was more than happy. I did all the windows too (of the bungalow) an extra £30. It is big.
I've done loads of insides and outs on connies and it's hot sweaty work. I am actually thinking of adding pressure washing rather than connies.  ;D

You could however, employ two guys (maybe good workers from a foreign country) at say £8 per hour. They would take a day, hard graft, so 14 man hours = £112. With the right customer you could get £200-£400.
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Mike Halliday

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2015, 05:01:40 pm »
I constantly hear that people won't pay  high prices, but I live in a good area full of quality people who pay me good money for my other services

 I heard it all the time in carpet cleaning,  people telling me that customer won't pay over £75 to clean suite but I charge £180 that you have to do 3 rooms for £90 to make any money as no one will pay top rates.

I think there are lots of people out there who will pay £180 for me to clean there conservatory roof, if they think it's too expensive then fine I will move onto the next quote until I get my price,  this is just an add on to my other work I won't need to rely on  it.

The time It will take to clean one I could clean a suite, so I would be daft to clean them for less money than I can make elsewhere.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

robbo333

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2015, 05:15:17 pm »
Mike if you can get the money (for the effort you put it) then go for it.
I'm not trying to put you off, but where I live, that is the reality.
Best wishes and good luck.
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

wpclean

Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2015, 10:02:11 pm »
Mike as a moderator you should refrain from using swear words, please watch your language ! :o

Smurf

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2015, 09:15:14 am »
Deep cleaning conservatories in and/or out is defiantly  hard work and normally takes a lot longer than people think so is easy to stitch yourself up pricewise.

Carpet cleaning on the other hand is a doddle to do compare to doing a conservatory valet properly.

Smudger

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2015, 04:29:44 pm »
Ive had 2 encounters with this company, ( not directly ) one  was a customer who was quoted 1k for in/out - totally over the top price - needless to say i easily got that, and the other was a very upset lady she had paid £800 and they missed most of the bits shown on the video ( yes everyone can have a bad day ) we soon polished this off to give a satisfactory result.

Ref the video, most of what's shown is to me bad practise, with wfp, and backpacks to deliver chemicals there is very little need to climb over a conservatory like in the video, it's also very slow! And rarely a better end result, the exception to this is if your renewing the mastic/silicone or removing compromised polycarbonate panels.

There are always various levels of service to these things, and there is a market place for this type/cost of clean but it's small and it's going to tie up lots of your time, our standard clean will 95% of the time  equal what's done in the  video, but takes anything from 45 mins to 1.5 hours.

Most of that video is good promotion rather than good practise

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Mike Halliday

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2015, 05:22:57 pm »
I've tried WFP and to be truthful I did'nt think they did a good job from ground level, I found it hard to scrub accurately into the crevices. This is why I was thinking of trying a portable scaffold to get waist high with the guttering so I can use a shorter pole and put more pressure into the scrubbing. ( You can see why i want to charge a premium price)

Although I don't have a lot of experiance with WFP so perhaps it's my I inexperience rather than the system.

I have a lot of equipment I could try even a steam machine with a 12ft long lance . I Think the only problem I will have is scrubbing the apex to a satisfactory standard without getting close up .
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Smudger

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2015, 05:29:25 pm »
Depends on the chemicals you use, a lot of the time you don't need a lot of pressure to scrub.

Getting your waist level with the gutter line will help tremendously - but you still don't need to crawl all over the  roof.

What's your idea of premium price and time for say 3 x 6 meter conservatory with pitched roof and finials ?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Mike Halliday

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2015, 06:25:00 pm »
Not done any commercially yet so don't have any idea of Price or timings but after practicing and getting my method of cleaning sorted out I will charge  £90 an hour  for a 2 man team. so what ever that comes out at
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Smudger

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2015, 07:31:53 pm »
Sounds about right,

The above mentioned size  takes us around 45 minutes - just as a guide for you

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

wpclean

Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2015, 08:06:52 pm »
I hate conservatory cleaning, donkey work, and if I get any more jobs I am going to pass them on to you  ;D

Smudger

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2015, 08:23:12 pm »
Who me ?

Bring it on the lads love em  ;D

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Rob@Blast off

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2015, 08:30:42 pm »
I do quite a few but there hard work, especially the awkward ones were they slope towards the house or are tight to fences etc, currently use just a wfp to clean them but going down the softwash route....

wpclean

Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2015, 08:53:18 pm »
The worst are where the guttering run on the conservatory is adjacent to the house, and the gap is half inch wide, and it is always full to the gills  ::)roll

Rob@Blast off

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2015, 09:47:21 pm »
Oh yes spent nearly two hours one day up a ladder with a gutter vac emptying one like that  >:(

Mike Halliday

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2015, 07:34:26 am »
Just got my new leaflets which has a big picture  of conservatory roof cleaning, so expecting some calls for it in the next few weeks.

Decided to buy a aluminium scaffold rig to do it, 2ft x 8ft x 10ft high. Do you think splitting the work up would be a good idea? Eg just the roof( which many cannot reach) and the side sections ( which the window cleaners or customers can clean)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

samson

Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2015, 09:01:04 am »
If you are just cleaning the roof you will get spills u derneath so upsell the full conservatory clean.  When you get good at it, and have the right tools/chems you can knock em off in no time.   Just dont book too many in one day as it can over face ya  ;D

Smudger

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Re: Conservatory valet
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2015, 09:32:32 am »
Part of selling the service Mike,

Always up sell your service by letting the the customer know it's a full clean , not just the roof.

If people know you are doing the finials, spars, panels, guttering, frames, glass and sills they are happier to pay the price than "just" for a roof.

Your average conny can be done by a pair in under an hour (3 x 6 meter)

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience