[Lewis Newby]

As per title guys, what are you using on wool and wool mix? And how are you using said products?

I tend to go for m-power since I have been using solutions products for the last year or so.

I vac , pre spray, agitate with tm4,  dwell, rinse . Results are great I must admit but it's a long process,  can it be shortened without compromise to the end result?

Regards
Lew

[John Kelly]

Mpower or our Bio Clean work well on wool but as you say it is a drawn out process. There are other great products on the market which cut the time down dramatically.  For a pre-spray there is Prochem Pre-Spray Gold also Chemspec One Clean Traffic Lane Cleaner both Woolsafe approved. For in tank product Chemspec Powdered One Clean and Prochem Fibresafe Gold, again both excellent products.
If you want to stay on the eco side of things then DFC 105 is brilliant as a pre-spray, in tank rinse and also great on upholstery. It is also one of the most certified eco products on the market.

[Mike Halliday]

As per title guys, what are you using on wool and wool mix? And how are you using said products?

I tend to go for m-power since I have been using solutions products for the last year or so.

I vac , pre spray, agitate with tm4,  dwell, rinse . Results are great I must admit but it's a long process,  can it be shortened without compromise to the end result?

Regards
Lew

But this is how you clean a carpet, the fact that it's a long process is  just because that's the time it takes.

You want the same great results then do the same.

perhaps at a push  to save some time you could tell them to give the carpet a real good  vac before you arrive.

[Lewis Newby]

Mike, totally understand that. My question is in response to a few posts recently about certain products taking more work for the same end result. I.e more agitation and dwell.

Time is money, and both ways if I can work faster, I can either offer a better price and book more jobs, or I can achieve a higher hourly rate- whichever I prefer.

So what's your go to preserve for wool/mix carpet Mike ?

Regards

Lew

[Mike Halliday]

I have a big electric sprayer which I fill with pure clean, every carpet and suite get presprayed with that  and then freshwater rinsed.........maybe a bit of F90 if it's a minger  or EOT

I don't alter what I use whether it's wool or nylon or disgusting or not bad.... It all get the same pre-treatment

[stuart_clark]

I use Chemspec One clean , Chemspec preclean,

[Radek Jablonski]

skip the vac on most of jobs if you use tm4
tm4 will lift  hairs and other dirt that you will not remove with your vacuum anyway.

... and become van mounted if your not

[Robin Ray]

I know I'm sounding a bit like a broken record when it comes to Ultimate master however I have been using it in the tank and using it to prespray down with the wand. It works really well and saves the time of mixing up a separate pre spray. Before trying this i was using pureclean like Mike and was happy with the results, I may have boosted it with either oxibrite or citra boost or both depending on the carpet.

Not sure if there are any ways of speeding things up other than that. I have considered trying a rotovac, So vacing, prespraying the carpet and extracting with the rotovac thus eliminating the agitation phase. However I have been told this is no quicker.

[elliott cleaning]

Having looked up what the manufacturers/ suppliers classify Ultimate Master to be - I discovered they regard it as a detergent.
So what you are saying is that you pre spray with a detergent and then rinse the carpet with more of the same detergent.
Forget about all this self neutralising bunkum - what my concern is how much detergent residue you are leaving in the carpet

[john martin]

Having looked up what the manufacturers/ suppliers classify Ultimate Master to be - I discovered they regard it as a detergent.
So what you are saying is that you pre spray with a detergent and then rinse the carpet with more of the same detergent.
Forget about all this self neutralising bunkum - what my concern is how much detergent residue you are leaving in the carpet

What evers left ... dont worry about  , with UM anyway .  Might be different some high foam product .
I'v use UM for years , regularly check rooms iv previously cleaned when im in  a house doing something else .  Re-soiling due to the product residue is not a significant factor .

Also  ' detergent '  is not a substance  , its a name given to a  combination of various differing chemical agents used to make numerous different cleaning products .

[elliott cleaning]

 Ok, so I won't worry about what's left - and as you've been using it for years,  what is in Ultimate Master that can allay my concerns

Oh, a combination of surfactants or chemicals used for cleaning purposes is a substance called detergent

[john martin]

Ok, so I won't worry about what's left - and as you've been using it for years,  what is in Ultimate Master that can allay my concerns

Oh, a combination of surfactants or chemicals used for cleaning purposes is a substance called detergent

So what are u concerned about ?   is it the fact that u can call UM a detergent or that u are not rinsing with plain water  , even if you were are u sure you are getting all your prespray residue out ?

 So you defined detergent  ...  then define what cleaning products are not detergent and why .

[Robin Ray]

If detergents are so bad why do all the major chemical manufacturers spend huge amounts of money developing products containing them. Prochem, Chemspec, Bridgepoint, Craftex all manufacture them. The ircrc and nacca both include the use of them in their training.

There is an interesting article about just this in this online magazine on page 6 http://www.prochem-uk.com/shopimages/pdf/cs18.pdf

Please for anyone who can, explain how they attract soils in their dry residual state.

[elliott cleaning]

John - I get the impression that I'm upsetting you which is not my intention  so I won't persue the issue

Cleaning product which isn't a detergent -"soap

[john martin]

John - I get the impression that I'm upsetting you which is not my intention  so I won't persue the issue

Cleaning product which isn't a detergent -"soap

Upsetting me thing = cop out 

Soap -  yes not detergent but no modern carpet/Uph  cleaning products contain soap  ...  even some soap isnt soap anymore  ...  dove bar  , detergent .

[elliott cleaning]

Call it what you like but as you weren't able to answer my initial query

[john martin]

Call it what you like but as you weren't able to answer my initial query

I dont see anywhere i could insert a question mark ...

But if it was ' how much residue is left after Ultimate master '   .....   ?

then i did answer it   ....   ' dont worry about it  '   

[Steven Butler]

Hi Mike, i find it hard to believe that someone as experienced and successful as yourself uses the same prespray on everything mate...!?!

[Mike Halliday]

Why?

Dirt is dirt,  most of the dirt we get in one carpet is the same as the next,  our  job is always the same...... remove the dirt, if any dirt  doesn't respond to pureclean it would'nt have responded to any other pre-spray either so will need spotting

carpet cleaners are always look for excuses for not getting the carpet as clean as they wanted and the ' go to' excuse is  'I used the wrong chemical' ......... "this  carpet is wool so I should have used XZY chemical" or "this dirt is oily, cooking grease so I should have used YZXE chemical"

of course I carry other  pre-sprays because there are always exceptions. but I find pureclean, a good scrub and a very hot  ( highflow) extraction gives me the desired results.

I hate to say that the spotter I use 95% of the times is a  a bar off laundry soap, as I scrub any spot that does'nt respond gets a rub with it then another scrub.

[Steven Butler]

Interesting...!
Never used pureclean.