[CleanerCarpets]

its weird - when i started cleaning 10 years ago i did initial training at Alltec and used their citrus prespray and Ulimate Master. Then a few years later i found microsplitters and havent generally used anything else since as i loved them and felt i had moved on in a positive way from the other products i had used.

i say its weird as you guys are doing it the other way - going from splitters to UM etc and saying its a positive move where for me its seems a backward step - just shows how everyone's perspective can be different and is influenced by their relationship with the supplier

[Shaun_Ashmore]

The influence from the supplier works both ways as if a product doesn't work then customers won't buy, all cleaners buy products on confidence if you believe in a certain supplier and buy their product and it does the job then they are a good supplier that's why Mpower has the rise took out of it as it has been over hyped irrelevant of what it can or can't do, someone joking called it 'Jesus in a bottle' because of the claims of what it did to stains and soiling.

Shaun

[tim handley]

i mentioned m power at the tacca day whilst paying for 5litre of bioclean, there was a deathly silence and the air was sucked out of the room.....    or so it seemed to me, i always quite liked m power, now i like bioclean even more AND its cheaper...

[john martin]

its weird - when i started cleaning 10 years ago i did initial training at Alltec and used their citrus prespray and Ulimate Master. Then a few years later i found microsplitters and havent generally used anything else since as i loved them and felt i had moved on in a positive way from the other products i had used.

i say its weird as you guys are doing it the other way - going from splitters to UM etc and saying its a positive move where for me its seems a backward step - just shows how everyone's perspective can be different and is influenced by their relationship with the supplier

Why did u think it was a positive move  ?   if u break it down the UM/citrus prespray is just superior chemistry .

[CleanerCarpets]

i disagree John but then thats just my unbiased opinion based on my own use only

unlike Shaun's present posting which is based on him being upset with Solutions and now simply posting negatively about them. I am just making the point people should make up their own mind on products and suppliers and not go off the biased opinions of the few who have hidden agendas

[Shaun_Ashmore]

When or where have I said that I didn't like Solutions products?

Shaun

[clive ware]

You`re such a trouble maker Shaun!!

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Think you'll find that the trouble maker has gone for now.

Shaun

[CleanerCarpets]

 

[des]

I heared some where that UM does not like pumps .Have they solved that problem yet

[sean oregan]

Des, not heard of that BUT it is a powder and you run any powder through pump problems may occur if not dissolved properly.
Remedy um liquid

[Jonathan Evans]

They do an Ultimate master liquid now, great product and nice smell.

[tim handley]

um liquid??        can it  be true ?     is it as economic as the powdered um? if so hurrah!!!!!

[sean oregan]

About £15 for 5 ltrs so not as economical.

[john martin]

  Same name but mainly different product ingredients  , not that one might be better that the other and the cleaning effect might be the same .
From what i can see  , they both contain phosphate and surfactant  , for solvent the liquid uses ethanol and methanol , the powder uses d-limonene ,  The powder has an oxidizer content  , the liquid does not as far as i can see .  Not sure if they both have a enzyme content , i think the powder does .

[tim handley]

prob just stick with the powder, its the dogs doo dahs, very very good.....................

[Robin Ray]

I have just got some liquid, I haven't used it yet, I asked if it can be used in the same way as the powder and they said it cant and is really meant to be just a rinsing product. There is a video of someone using the powder as a pre spray and the liquid as a rinse on the Alltec website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw3ma1ludGw

[john martin]

 Dont some of the Americans add some of the alcohols to their rinse claiming better wetting and faster drying process , perhaps thats the idea with the methanol and ethanol  in UM liquid.

[clive ware]

UM liquid has a great smell to it but does not clean nearly as well as the powder.