[stuart_clark]

The guy I was chatting with this afternoon had a boxer and a spitfire and has got rid of the spitfire and bought an escape, he thought it was better and obviously no massive petrol costs normally associated with petrol truckmounts, he is going to get another nand get rid of the other petrol truckmount, he has a three van set up and is very pleased with the escape
he has a device that heats the water up I thi k around the exhaust of the van

[john martin]

John

I can get my hands on one, a brand new one for the price of a storm ! Well nearly £3000
My only problem is how do I supply fresh water to it ? Not realy had any experience of that type of set up ! A guy I was talking to today from west yorkshire has one, and he swears by it but feeds his from the customers hose pipe

Thats certainly a tempting price Stuart !
It probably works great once u get every thing set up and get used to it .
I found a manual here ... (power hook will part be not relevant @230v)   but its shows an autofill connection at the side of its onboard tank  , so u gotta hook up a hose  , either from  customers supply , or onboard tank ... a transfer demand pump would be the right way to do that .

http://mytee.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Escape-man_web.pdf

[stuart_clark]

John
how does the Storm with its 6.6 motors compare ie cfm and hg to an Escape ? I cant find any figures online


Stuart

[john martin]

John
how does the Storm with its 6.6 motors compare ie cfm and hg to an Escape ? I cant find any figures online


Stuart

A storm would be around 290cm and 10hg
You can only get the high lift and the high flow at the one time with 4vacs

[stuart_clark]

John
I do believe there are two sets of vacs in series thenthe pair in parallel ! Best of both worlds ! Same as your inforcer with the booster box

[stuart_clark]

John

its just dawned on me that your Enforcer with the booster box fitted must have more cfm and more hg than the ETM as your Electro motors are more powerful than the standard 1400 watt lambs

[john martin]

John
I do believe there are two sets of vacs in series thenthe pair in parallel ! Best of both worlds ! Same as your inforcer with the booster box

yes my boosted Enforcer pretty much copies the Escapes motor setup

[john martin]

John

its just dawned on me that your Enforcer with the booster box fitted must have more cfm and more hg than the ETM as your Electro motors are more powerful than the standard 1400 watt lambs

 The Escape is suppose to be running 560 airwatt electros ( unless woodbridge had other ideas )  mytee were the first i think to use electros and they are often referred to as Mytee motors on the US forums.
My setup has all kinds of motors at this point in time ... because i was trying various vacs testing and playing around with  things . 

[stuart_clark]

John
how many air watts does a 5.7 lamb motor produce ?

[john martin]

John
how many air watts does a 5.7 lamb motor produce ?

around 460 for a 1400w Roughly. ..  I don't think it's critical what motors it's fitted with as that 4vac configuration will feel powerful with any three stages ...but u would need to try it for yourself.

[stuart_clark]

Radek
do you still mount your Storm on your van ? And if so how much water do you carry ? And do you have a seperate vessel for the waste water or does it just empty into a bucket ?

Stuart

[stuart_clark]

John
any idea how much cfm 2x 8.4 motors would give ? And how much lift
Dont think there is room in a storm for 8.4s if matt decided to make any changes in the future

Stuart

[Radek Jablonski]

Stuart I have a upright 400L bafflet tank for fresh water with submersible cheap garden pump inside the tank to pump water. then 250l flat baffled tank for waste water, must be flat as need to be lower then the storm waste water tank. Emptying works automatically when the machine stops as the opened valve is placed over the 250l tank.
Filling the storm takes only 2 minutes.
It could be enough to carry 250l of fresh water, but 400l is not much bigger so i got it and no need to fill my van every day.

[stuart_clark]

Radek
what sort of van do you have mate ?

[Radek Jablonski]

nissan primastar lwb

one thing, if you want to empty your machine to the seperate tank you need some filter, I have an vacuum inline mytee filter. otherwise all bigger stuff will go to the tank. Other option is this http://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/tank_accessories/filter_baskets you can order with your tank from restormate. recommend mytee anyway and the other filter as an extra protection with piglet filters on it if you like.

[stuart_clark]

Radek
I cant understand why you need this garden pump with your storm van mounted system ?  Surely its just a case of dropping the solution pick up pipes into the fresh water tank ?
If I have the same set up I think I would just dump the water into a drain rather than use a separate tank

Stuart

[Radek Jablonski]

stuart
those pipes are not long enough to place into such a big tank, end of the hose would need to get to the bottom of the tank, not possible and longer hose is not recommended.
other think is that I can mix any chems in solution tank I need.. If you use the big tank as a water feed and then if you need to mix some solution in the storm tank then you would need to move the hoses what would require priming the pump.
Pump is just more handy.

[Lewis Newby]

Stuart, im sure soneone can clarify, but I believe if you transport fresh water to the job you must dispose of it as waste once its been used.  Therefor a waste water liscence is required. I think different water boards have different views, some being stricter then others.
hopefully I am wrong is I often use my water tank to clean customers carpets and dispose of it on site.

[Raymondo]

Stuart, im sure soneone can clarify, but I believe if you transport fresh water to the job you must dispose of it as waste once its been used.  Therefor a waste water liscence is required. I think different water boards have different views, some being stricter then others.
hopefully I am wrong is I often use my water tank to clean customers carpets and dispose of it on site.

We run a truckmount so can have a tank of waste water.

A few years ago we went to the environment agency and asked them whether we needed a waste licence.

He looked at the TM he then made a few phone calls and then had a looked at the TM again then a few more calls.

In the end the answer was no but I really felt he was unsure but as he said no then that was good enough.

What do you class as waste even a hoover bag is waste?

I hate red tape and elf and safety policies etc.

[Lewis Newby]

Exactly!  You can put any and everything into water at home , but if you do it for a living you get screwed.

I dont know the technicalities , but I use detergent free, so thats detergents off the list.
now lets look at worst case vomit, urine, faeces and blood. I have flushed all the above down the loo at some time. My kids (and very occasionally me ) have accidents in the bath. And I have lost count of times people stand over a sink with a nose bleed.
Anything else should be natural material such as dust, soil, and all manor of organic organisms etc which some of which would naturally make its way out to the open in the air or via foot traffic.

Like I said im no expert so happy to be corrected but thats how I see it