Why the debate anyway, Arthur, get a life mate, if you put half the energy into positive things other than what you dream up of posting on here then maybe we can all come and work for you. After all we know nothing compared to your vast knowledge of just about anything. Oh my mistake, just about everything, best, Dave...... P.S. If you reply to this then you will be talking to yourself but then I am sure that is ok as I feel you like the sound of what you write..... Dog with a bone couldnt be more apt!!!!