[hasti]

Whats the different in this pump ?

http://www.rutlandpumps.co.uk/products/interpump-evo3-59-series-e3e2517c

[chris scott]

It' s the biggest pump you can put on a gx390 and get the full out put. The 202 will only put out about 170bar@21lpm. Most users don't have a clue about machines so they are unaware of this.
Also near perfect jetting on your Flat surface cleaner will be achievable with the EVO pump.
Down side …some would argue…is no gearbox and the pump will wear out quicker. I'm on my second season with one which I have stripped and rebuilt just to see if there is any wear…there isn't. .

[Rob@Blast off]

There is a formula to work out what's better but had a couple of drinks now so I can't remember it 😃

[hasti]

It' s the biggest pump you can put on a gx390 and get the full out put. The 202 will only put out about 170bar@21lpm. Most users don't have a clue about machines so they are unaware of this.
Also near perfect jetting on your Flat surface cleaner will be achievable with the EVO pump.
Down side …some would argue…is no gearbox and the pump will wear out quicker. I'm on my second season with one which I have stripped and rebuilt just to see if there is any wear…there isn't. .

Hi Chris
You defiantly know about pumps sir , and yes i don't have a clue about any of these hence i have come to ask about it from guys like your the professionals.
This might sound daft question, but this pump doesn't look a brass pump, and i hear every one say the Brass pumps are the best ? is that true?

[hasti]

There is a formula to work out what's better but had a couple of drinks now so I can't remember it 😃

  perhaps tomorrow Rob ?

[Rob@Blast off]

Maybe 

[chris scott]

It is just a guide to compare machines (if you take the flow in lpm x Pressure in Bars and divide by 600) this will give you a number to compare machines – It’s not set in concrete but it’s not a bad guide.
Just to confuse you tho' . The machines you compare must be operating at the claimed out put.
So a ws202 /gx390 set up is claimed to be 200 bar @21lpm but in real life would be around 170bar @21 because the engine is not big enough.
Interpump quote for the pumps electrical horsepower…mechanical hp (what we use with an engine ) is different. So when inter pump quotes 10hp for a pump…it will need a 13hp "engine".
Adding to this a 13hp Honda gx390 engine is only about 11.5hp.
There are two "main" suppliers of GX390 /200 bar /21 LPM machines on the market . Jetmac and Q washers. ( I don't like either!) Although Q washers after sales is generally very good.
Pressure washers (the people) generally want to be bigger than the next company ,bigger tool (pressure washer) ,bigger nozzle,…bigger job. This does not mean the biggest pay packet.
These are only my opinions and somebody will be along to rip them apart shortly

[hasti]

It is just a guide to compare machines (if you take the flow in lpm x Pressure in Bars and divide by 600) this will give you a number to compare machines – It’s not set in concrete but it’s not a bad guide.
Just to confuse you tho' . The machines you compare must be operating at the claimed out put.
So a ws202 /gx390 set up is claimed to be 200 bar @21lpm but in real life would be around 170bar @21 because the engine is not big enough.
Interpump quote for the pumps electrical horsepower…mechanical hp (what we use with an engine ) is different. So when inter pump quotes 10hp for a pump…it will need a 13hp "engine".
Adding to this a 13hp Honda gx390 engine is only about 11.5hp.
There are two "main" suppliers of GX390 /200 bar /21 LPM machines on the market . Jetmac and Q washers. ( I don't like either!) Although Q washers after sales is generally very good.
Pressure washers (the people) generally want to be bigger than the next company ,bigger tool (pressure washer) ,bigger nozzle,…bigger job. This does not mean the biggest pay packet.
These are only my opinions and somebody will be along to rip them apart shortly

Thats great to know Chris and Thank you sir, Although i am a bit confused with all these numbers  all i want to have a good pressure washer which can do large patios and drive ways and doesn't give me hassle.

How about these guys ? 

http://www.spinaclean.com/patio-paving-surface-cleaning-packages.asp


Are they any good ?

[chris scott]

It is just a guide to compare machines (if you take the flow in lpm x Pressure in Bars and divide by 600) this will give you a number to compare machines – It’s not set in concrete but it’s not a bad guide.
Just to confuse you tho' . The machines you compare must be operating at the claimed out put.
So a ws202 /gx390 set up is claimed to be 200 bar @21lpm but in real life would be around 170bar @21 because the engine is not big enough.
Interpump quote for the pumps electrical horsepower…mechanical hp (what we use with an engine ) is different. So when inter pump quotes 10hp for a pump…it will need a 13hp "engine".
Adding to this a 13hp Honda gx390 engine is only about 11.5hp.
There are two "main" suppliers of GX390 /200 bar /21 LPM machines on the market . Jetmac and Q washers. ( I don't like either!) Although Q washers after sales is generally very good.
Pressure washers (the people) generally want to be bigger than the next company ,bigger tool (pressure washer) ,bigger nozzle,…bigger job. This does not mean the biggest pay packet.
These are only my opinions and somebody will be along to rip them apart shortly

Thats great to know Chris and Thank you sir, Although i am a bit confused with all these numbers  all i want to have a good pressure washer which can do large patios and drive ways and doesn't give me hassle.

How about these guys ? 

http://www.spinaclean.com/patio-paving-surface-cleaning-packages.asp


Are they any good ?

Too expensive.
Call rutland pumps 01664 490 451 …he will build you one. 250 bar 17 lpm ,k series unloader.

[BDCS]

Come on then Chris - explain why you don't say why your beloved petrols will not run the 202 where a diesel of the same rated horsepower will

[hasti]

It is just a guide to compare machines (if you take the flow in lpm x Pressure in Bars and divide by 600) this will give you a number to compare machines – It’s not set in concrete but it’s not a bad guide.
Just to confuse you tho' . The machines you compare must be operating at the claimed out put.
So a ws202 /gx390 set up is claimed to be 200 bar @21lpm but in real life would be around 170bar @21 because the engine is not big enough.
Interpump quote for the pumps electrical horsepower…mechanical hp (what we use with an engine ) is different. So when inter pump quotes 10hp for a pump…it will need a 13hp "engine".
Adding to this a 13hp Honda gx390 engine is only about 11.5hp.
There are two "main" suppliers of GX390 /200 bar /21 LPM machines on the market . Jetmac and Q washers. ( I don't like either!) Although Q washers after sales is generally very good.
Pressure washers (the people) generally want to be bigger than the next company ,bigger tool (pressure washer) ,bigger nozzle,…bigger job. This does not mean the biggest pay packet.
These are only my opinions and somebody will be along to rip them apart shortly

Thats great to know Chris and Thank you sir, Although i am a bit confused with all these numbers  all i want to have a good pressure washer which can do large patios and drive ways and doesn't give me hassle.

How about these guys ? 

http://www.spinaclean.com/patio-paving-surface-cleaning-packages.asp


Are they any good ?

Too expensive.
Call rutland pumps 01664 490 451 …he will build you one. 250 bar 17 lpm ,k series unloader.

Thanks Chris, you have been very helpful sir, 

[chris scott]

Come on then Chris - explain why you don't say why your beloved petrols will not run the 202 where a diesel of the same rated horsepower will

Don't know why…do they?
Torque to me ?

[Matt.]

Hasti

I followed the advise of Chris, I got in touch with Ben at Rutland pumps and he built me a machine. He also told me about the benefits and non benefits of the gear box, maybe 5-10 years ago 100% gear box but now days a direct drive is sound.

I love doing a bit of pressure washing

[hasti]

Hasti

I followed the advise of Chris, I got in touch with Ben at Rutland pumps and he built me a machine. He also told me about the benefits and non benefits of the gear box, maybe 5-10 years ago 100% gear box but now days a direct drive is sound.

I love doing a bit of pressure washing

Hi Matty
Many thanks for your advice sir, and yes Chris seem to have a lot of knowledge about these kind of machine but i have now mad my mind up and went for this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRESSURE-WASHER-BUSINESS-PACKAGE-KIT-HONDA-DRIVEWAY-PATIO-CLEANING-PAY-OUT-ONCE/171647025542?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3Db4110a4ad4e645399b100aaad15375c3%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D181643462963

Dymian from Q wash, was very knowledgeable and very helpful so far,  although he is a very fast talker  but after few good review on here about him i have now bought it. i like to thank everyone on here to help me, as i didn't have a clue what to buy and were to buy it.

So THANK YOU VERY MUCH GUYS 

[Griffus]

Malcleanse is good, Jetmac OK too

[Rob@Blast off]

Nice, bet you can't wait to have a play with it.

[hasti]

Nice, bet you can't wait to have a play with it.

Oh yes rob  and thanks to you sir.
Its funny but Boys with their Toys 
We all love to have gagets to play with 

[BDCS]

Malcleanse is good, Jetmac OK too

Malcleanse are Ok until you need to return something then they know every excuse why its not their fault.

[chris scott]

So contrary to advice you bought an underpowered pressure washer and a no-name flat surface cleaner for maximum bucks
….most sales men talk fast.

[hasti]

So contrary to advice you bought an underpowered pressure washer and a no-name flat surface cleaner for maximum bucks
….most sales men talk fast.

Not all Sales men talk fast  you and me are sales men too  every time we go to a new customer, we are saleing    i am defiantly not a fast one  and i get 9 out of 10 Right  your advice was very good, but you didn't exactly tell me which company were the best to buy from,  after all if this guy sold me rubbish every one will know soon, cause i will put a feed back on this machine here, so if he is good, he will be success in his business and if he has sold me rubbish, it will be his downfall, so far i have heard good things about him so time will tell.