[kempy]

 Does any type handle fit onto the channel

[cgh window cleaning]

I have changed the handle on mine to a standard moerman  composite handle.
In my opinion the handle they supply it with is terrible.

[SB Cleaning]

Fits the Unger ergotec fine...

[kempy]

Ok cheers

[andyM]

Only just tried mine out on my downstairs windows.
First impressions: I was getting drag with the Moerman rubber (fair enough that I hadn't given it much time to bed in).
So as I ordered some of the red (facelift?) rubbers I switched to that and found it better.
Also I would of liked to order a 12" channel as that is what I prefer to use but  14" was the closet available so I've cut the channel down to 12" with the hacksaw.
12" seems much better now for fanning standard size domestic windows (just my preference).
Thoughts: It does do what it says on the tin (less detailing), but I need more time to see if I will eventually prefer it to using the Wagtail.
I reckon the rubbers probably won't last as long, although I will continue to use the red facelift  or unger hard rubbers with it.
I bought the Unger ergotec handle with it but personally find it feels slightly too light and flimsy.   

[chez]

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I have used moermann rubbers before and they are terrible almost unusable
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I have tried them but sent them back poor. Prefer the facelift red.

[hennessy window cl]

Thanks folks for the honest replies and assessments ,I think ill be giving it a skip as I havent heard anywows which i expected given all the pre launch hype.

[wfp master]

the verdict aint very good so far.  does it cut down on detailing.?

[ChumBucket]

It certainly doesn't seem to be living up to all the hype that's for sure!!

[SB Cleaning]

I think I have got Daz syndrome 

Been out with the liquidator again doing a very big house inside and it was brilliant...definitely cuts down on the detailing...I think they take a bit of getting used too but I will be sticking with mine

[Dave Willis]

Record day?

[SB Cleaning]

Record day?

Nearly Dave

[jimiwindows]

 It feels like something you bought in woolworths the handle on my One is pants the rubber is pants as well.so i have to buy new Handle and new rubbers to see if it any good.

[Dave Willis]

I've been asked by WCW to give a review of the ones I bought.

Unlikely because they are out of stock and haven't sent them yet. 

[wfp master]

still undecided.

[Dave Willis]

still waiting  zzzzz

[Dave Willis]

Yay!! as if by magic my two channels arrived!



Jesus!  I don't know what the knack is but they don't work for me yet 
Rubber drags about like it's got glue on it, won't turn won't fan. Swapped rubber for a facelift red - not a huge improvement.

In my opinion, and I'm very much a newbie when it comes to trad - but I think they've concentrated so hard at trying to get it into the edges that it's dog eared too much.
Going to cut some Unger hard and try that. At the moment I feel like hurling it up the garden.

[wayne m]

Don't work for me either and I do lots of traditional work so thought these would be really good but like you said drag loads and do eared to much brought 6 channels and just sat in the van glove box after 15 mins of getting them the same week they went on sale. 

[Dave Willis]

I've been playing with them on the insides now for about an hour. The 14" with Moerman rubber is starting to work now. Rubber doesn't work well with GG4 and trips when cutting in. The 18" is still pretty useless to be honest - seems to lift off the glass in the middle and just won't turn. Maybe the caps soften up in time but at the moment I've chucked £25 down the pan as my old dogeared S channels are 100% better.

[kempy]

Oh dear , it's not easy to innovate a product . But you would of thought the rubbers would of been better