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CleanClear

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Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« on: February 21, 2015, 08:44:11 pm »
anyone got one ? I've been told i need to get one before i can use this............6ft.

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PoleKing

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CleanClear

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2015, 09:33:40 pm »
Try these mate.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUALITY-BUILDERS-STILTS-24-to-40-DRYWALL-PLASTERING-/200603946219?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb4ed4ceb

Yeah if i used them i could stick a collection bucket out at the same time !!!  ;D

Told me i couldn't clean with it anymore unless i got a permit. I've mailed them, but just wanna know if you have to pay for it, what it costs etc.....
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PoleKing

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2015, 09:36:06 pm »
Try these mate.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUALITY-BUILDERS-STILTS-24-to-40-DRYWALL-PLASTERING-/200603946219?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb4ed4ceb

Yeah if i used them i could stick a collection bucket out at the same time !!!  ;D

Told me i couldn't clean with it anymore unless i got a permit. I've mailed them, but just wanna know if you have to pay for it, what it costs etc.....

Typical scouser It is prudent to count the cost.
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It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Kinver_Clean

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2015, 09:37:09 pm »
Is this a wind up??

Please can I have a licence to blow my nose?
God must love stupid people---He made so many.

CleanClear

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2015, 09:40:17 pm »
Try these mate.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUALITY-BUILDERS-STILTS-24-to-40-DRYWALL-PLASTERING-/200603946219?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb4ed4ceb

Yeah if i used them i could stick a collection bucket out at the same time !!!  ;D

Told me i couldn't clean with it anymore unless i got a permit. I've mailed them, but just wanna know if you have to pay for it, what it costs etc.....

Typical scouser It is prudent to count the cost.

I've already decided, if i have to pay for it then i aint getting one and i'll just see what they will do about it. The annoying thing is that i was cleaning the shop with WFP, and the security told me i couldn't park my van there, even though everyone else does. He told me where to park it. So to avoid any hassle i parked it where he said and have been walking up with my ladder and bucket for about a month. Now, he's pulled this one out the hat.
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CleanClear

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 09:40:59 pm »
Is this a wind up??

Please can I have a licence to blow my nose?

Its deadly serious.
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Matt.

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2015, 09:44:36 pm »
I not heard of it mate, you may be best to ask one of the lads working for easy clean, they cover most of it. However there is a shop in L1 that I will be starting soon so I will also look into it for you as well as myself.

PoleKing

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 09:45:08 pm »
Try these mate.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUALITY-BUILDERS-STILTS-24-to-40-DRYWALL-PLASTERING-/200603946219?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb4ed4ceb

Yeah if i used them i could stick a collection bucket out at the same time !!!  ;D

Told me i couldn't clean with it anymore unless i got a permit. I've mailed them, but just wanna know if you have to pay for it, what it costs etc.....

Typical scouser It is prudent to count the cost.

I've already decided, if i have to pay for it then i aint getting one and i'll just see what they will do about it. The annoying thing is that i was cleaning the shop with WFP, and the security told me i couldn't park my van there, even though everyone else does. He told me where to park it. So to avoid any hassle i parked it where he said and have been walking up with my ladder and bucket for about a month. Now, he's pulled this one out the hat.

Trolley? Backpack?
Chuck the job?
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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Matt.

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2015, 09:48:13 pm »
It's one of them pole king, Liverpool 1 is a new shopping centre and is kind of run by L1 themselves, they can be a bit funny at times.

I cover work around L1 but not actually in L1, so haven't really had a major problem

But I do remember reading something about ladder permits needed when working in public areas so it could just be that, prob best to call in municipal building on dale st, on left as ya come off fly over.

CleanClear

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 09:49:17 pm »
I not heard of it mate, you may be best to ask one of the lads working for easy clean, they cover most of it. However there is a shop in L1 that I will be starting soon so I will also look into it for you as well as myself.

I rang up the Liverpool One office today Matty, i just told them i was a window cleaner and i believe i need a ladder permit, what do i need to do etc....he gave me an email address and said send your address there and we'll give you a link to apply online for it. I've had hassle of them lots of times to be honest, they've always got something to say....put more cones out or some crap. They also run their own inhouse window cleaning team, so may be there's the rub. I've always just carried on when they've said something and just finished my job without saying too much. Might just ramp up the pressure and tell him no, go ahead and do whatever it is he's going to do if i don't !!!  ;D
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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2015, 09:51:15 pm »
To my knowledge there is no such thing as a ladder permit or licence - sounds like the guy is giving you a hard time, maybe he has an agenda ? Firstly I would call his bluff and seek out his supervisor or management, at the very least get him to produce the said paperwork.

The only thing he maybe referring to is that your ladder should carry a certificate which states it's been inspected by a suitably qualified person and labeled as such. This only really applies if your an employee, not sole trader, but for own piece of mind it would be better to have a ladder log record

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

CleanClear

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2015, 09:53:29 pm »

Trolley? Backpack?
Chuck the job?

Nah, its just the principle of it now for me. They're always saying something. To be honest where i was parked was legal, and within the hours you're allowed. I was doing nothing wrong when i WFP it. Thats why its sticks in my throat, i just walked up with a bucket to keep the peace and not cause a fuss. And obviously its escelated to a ladder permit !!!  ;D  Wonder what would happen if i told him to get lost, call the cops to get me removed ?
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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2015, 09:54:32 pm »
I have a lad working for me who was working for L1, and they do like to keep in between themselves and mitie, what's the worst that can happen if they ask you not to use your equipment and you say no..........

That drive cherry pickers threw town of a night, there not supposed to,

Fick it mate, let's join together and take L1 off them all haha

Easy who are in town are shocking

Matt.

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2015, 09:55:45 pm »
At the request of are friend smudger, I will find out who the main man is for L1

CleanClear

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2015, 09:56:37 pm »
To my knowledge there is no such thing as a ladder permit or licence - sounds like the guy is giving you a hard time, maybe he has an agenda ? Firstly I would call his bluff and seek out his supervisor or management, at the very least get him to produce the said paperwork.

The only thing he maybe referring to is that your ladder should carry a certificate which states it's been inspected by a suitably qualified person and labeled as such. This only really applies if your an employee, not sole trader, but for own piece of mind it would be better to have a ladder log record


Darran, i rung up the Maintainance department for Liverpool One and they knew all about "their" ladder permits. They gave me the email address to apply for one.............
support.desk@liverpool-one.com

I've sent them a picture of the ladder in order that they can advise the correct permit i need for it !!  ;D
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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2015, 10:48:16 pm »
It must be something their H&S kn0b officer has come up with to justify a job

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

deeege

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2015, 10:49:18 pm »
I have a very similar problem with a indoor type shopping centre in my town. They now want me to sign in and out at 2 separate security stations every day and cordon off the area when we are working from (single pointer) ladders.

Only problem is that we clean 8 shops/stores in the same centre that's worth a good few quid to us so we have to toe the line or lose the lot.

You don't want to try organising getting a cherry picker in with these idiots, they make it impossible.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

deeege

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2015, 10:52:40 pm »
Forget to say, wouldn't it be easier to use a trad pole or wagtail rather than a ladder Mike? We only use the ladder for cleaning the signage.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

CleanClear

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Re: Liverpool One Ladder Permit.....
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2015, 11:14:57 pm »
Forget to say, wouldn't it be easier to use a trad pole or wagtail rather than a ladder Mike? We only use the ladder for cleaning the signage.

Yeah i use both trad pole and wagtail anyway. I just use the ladder really to get up inside the doorway which is all glass and recessed. And to do the doors (all glass) about 8/9 foot high. I wasn't even on the ladder when he came up to me, i just seen him looking and staring. I'm really miffed over it to be honest. If was blocking off some of the pavement, or going up on a big ladder 20 feet or so, i'd see the point. But this is just nonesense.
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