[Walter Mitty]

To my knowledge there is no such thing as a ladder permit or licence - sounds like the guy is giving you a hard time, maybe he has an agenda ? Firstly I would call his bluff and seek out his supervisor or management, at the very least get him to produce the said paperwork.

The only thing he maybe referring to is that your ladder should carry a certificate which states it's been inspected by a suitably qualified person and labeled as such. This only really applies if your an employee, not sole trader, but for own piece of mind it would be better to have a ladder log record

Darran, i rung up the Maintainance department for Liverpool One and they knew all about "their" ladder permits. They gave me the email address to apply for one.............
support.desk@liverpool-one.com

I've sent them a picture of the ladder in order that they can advise the correct permit i need for it !!  

When/if you get the permit, tear it in half, fold each half up and put them under the ladder stiles.  Tell them you thought it was meant as an anti-slip device.

[CleanClear]

Well give them their due, they don't hang around. Didn't have to wait long for a reply.....

Dear Mike

Your new Liverpool One Tools Property Management Tools account has been created

You can access the system at http://tools.liverpool-one.com **************
Your user profile has been assigned the following role(s):

Contractor/Occupier FM - Permits & LFA in Liverpool One

Liverpool ONE
0151 232 3169

Please note that these fees will be charged whether or not the Licence proceeds to completion.

All fees quoted below are exclusive of VAT.

Licence Type                                                                   Solicitor's Fees              Managing Agent's Fees

Minor Works to be documented by Letter Licence                 n/a                                 £350

Works requiring documentation by Formal Licence              £1,500                            £500

Telecoms Licence (wayleave) for 3rd party operator     £1,500 to £ 3,000                  £500


Please ensure you attach your task and site specific RAMS to the permit request and complete no later than 48 hours prior to commencement of work.    Permits required for Mondays must be submitted no later than 17:30 hours on the previous Thursday.  Please upload all the documentation (RAMS) in word / pdf / zip formats.

Once your permit is approved you will receive an automated email.   Your staff will need to report to the control room above the information centre on Wall Street prior to starting work, to sign for their permit.   Once the work is complete they will be required to again report to the control room to sign off their permit.

Any queries or issues raising your permit please contact the support desk on 0151 232 3121.

Regards,



So i'm going to go with the ....tell the security guard where to go route. I'll tell you what he does when i do it.

[PoleKing]

Go on, get the stilts.
You know you want to.
It'll be hilarious! You'll get noticed so may get more work from it. And, best of all,
there'll be no legislation on 'em.

[Ste M]

Mike why not play them at their own game, go and ask one of the other cleaning lads if you can see HIS licence. Sounds like a bluff to me, can't see how this is legal as its not law to have a ladder licence. We may as well walk round making all sorts of new laws up and charging silly money for them

[CleanClear]

Mike why not play them at their own game, go and ask one of the other cleaning lads if you can see HIS licence. Sounds like a bluff to me, can't see how this is legal as its not law to have a ladder licence. We may as well walk round making all sorts of new laws up and charging silly money for them

I'll play the same game as him, i'll ask to see his so i've got his name. Then tell him exactly what to do with it.

[Richard Stevenson]

We do work for several company's who will o only let you use a ladder if you have been on a course to use the ladder, i think its a 1 day and about £250.  This is we're you will get your permit. This is the sort of cr**p industrial window cleaners deal with weekly.

[Walter Mitty]

Would trad pole be practical?  On some jobs like shop fronts the finish is straightforward - on others it's not practical though.

[Walter Mitty]

There's too much of this garbage around.  I was one of the subbies on a large job a few years ago where they wanted £100 for me to complete a spurious safety questionairre and "award" me some plastic tag with my photo on it.  I went for it because the job was still worthwhile but no mention of it before the quotation went in so that I could factor it into the price.  A year later the job was due again and they wanted another £100 - even though there was never any mention of annual renewal being required.  That time I told them to go and do one and it didn't sound pretty.  I'm not in the market for giving someone £100 to scratch their nuts in front of a computer.

[CleanClear]

Well just got a nice suprise. Since they emailed me at 06.50 this morn, they've emailed me again and said its not £350 for a permit. I've mis understood something. Got some more instructions of what to do. They've also just rang me now and couldn't be more helpfull !! No charge for permits, and said they're here to help me not hinder me so that was good. Told me i could use my ladder without a permit, or i could get one what ever i wanted to do. Did ask for a description of the Guard, they knew him, and knew him to be overzealous.

For Matty: Once i have a look and get it sorted exactly how i get the permit i'll pass the info on for you.

Off to Ebay now to buy one of them Cyclist Cameras to record my next meeting with the Guard 

[DG Cleaning]

Where I work ladders are for access only not for working off.
Oh and if you climb over 4ft then you need a harness.