[Clever Forum Name]

There more window cleaners in this country than plumbers the only people making real money in this business are  the people who sell the equipment ie the same people who run and operate this forum and we are the mugs who help and promote more people to start up a business give them help and advice only for them to  under price well established windies

This is why over the last year or so I have stopped giving away anything new I have found out.

[PoleKing]

Im not struggling

but not making 'real' money

[dazmond]

Probably came on here. Saw you go away on these 5* getaways then realized she is helping to fund it. I am going to be honest here! It's your fault Daz!

Tongue firmly in cheek eh?

Yes I have nice holidays but don't drink, smoke and I have no kids and run a successful one man business. 

[Mick Kent]

You have prob lost loads to leaflets over the years. Customers dont always tell is the real reason for canceling, they dont want to hurt our feelings,
Whilst canvassing i always get wxisting customers of other cleaners asking the price and if its better they will swap.normally my price is higher so i dont get a convert however saving money is a thing every one of us wants to do.

[Fin Clearview]

There more window cleaners in this country than plumbers the only people making real money in this business are  the people who sell the equipment ie the same people who run and operate this forum and we are the mugs who help and promote more people to start up a business give them help and advice only for them to  under price well established windies

This is why over the last year or so I have stopped giving away anything new I have found out.

The more sensible comment I've read here lately. Too much transparency on this site imo..some say tongue in cheek while others read as black n white. Then they moan about new start ups undercutting them   

[Clever Forum Name]

Probably came on here. Saw you go away on these 5* getaways then realized she is helping to fund it. I am going to be honest here! It's your fault Daz!

Tongue firmly in cheek eh?

Yes I have nice holidays but don't drink, smoke and I have no kids and run a successful one man business. 

Haha. Keep it up Daz. I purchased waterproof last year and worked in heavier rain due to your comments. I then purchased some expensive ones and work in extreme downpours if I have too.

[Clever Forum Name]

There more window cleaners in this country than plumbers the only people making real money in this business are  the people who sell the equipment ie the same people who run and operate this forum and we are the mugs who help and promote more people to start up a business give them help and advice only for them to  under price well established windies

This is why over the last year or so I have stopped giving away anything new I have found out.

The more sensible comment I've read here lately. Too much transparency on this site imo..some say tongue in cheek while others read as black n white. Then they moan about new start ups undercutting them   

Met a trad cleaner sometime ago and was just about to go over to WFP. Told if he needed advice on systems or what to buy then gimme a call. Chap said no need. Went into his cab got the box file and it was crammed full of screen shots from
Various sites lol. Lurkers on every site tbh

[Jonny 87]

There more window cleaners in this country than plumbers the only people making real money in this business are  the people who sell the equipment ie the same people who run and operate this forum and we are the mugs who help and promote more people to start up a business give them help and advice only for them to  under price well established windies

This is why over the last year or so I have stopped giving away anything new I have found out.

The more sensible comment I've read here lately. Too much transparency on this site imo..some say tongue in cheek while others read as black n white. Then they moan about new start ups undercutting them   

Met a trad cleaner sometime ago and was just about to go over to WFP. Told if he needed advice on systems or what to buy then gimme a call. Chap said no need. Went into his cab got the box file and it was crammed full of screen shots from
Various sites lol. Lurkers on every site tbh

I've found that to be true aswell.

The amount of people just reading and "gleaning" information without actually giving anything back is way more than you'd think.

It's a shame really.

Makes you wonder over the years how many people forums like this has helped overcome problems, when otherwise they have may have just jacked it all in.

[Clever Forum Name]

Very true indeed.

Used to post on a PC forum. One chap set up his own pc company and never once posted lol. He just used it to get a feel for what people wanted from PC shops. What grinds their gears etc.

This is why my effort for some time hasn't gone fully into window cleaning and gone elsewhere.

[Dave Willis]

Just the way people are. The worst ones are the newbies who become overnight experts dishing out poor advice or the self promoting twerps who just want to get more hits on their latest crap youtube videos.

Over the years there's only half a dozen on here I look up to and probably only one supplier possibly two who talk any sense.

[ChumBucket]

Just the way people are. The worst ones are the newbies who become overnight experts dishing out poor advice or the self promoting twerps who just want to get more hits on their latest crap youtube videos.

Over the years there's only half a dozen on here I look up to and probably only one supplier possibly two who talk any sense.

+1

Well said. Just remember- "it's good to talk", call me yeah!! 

[Fin Clearview]

Just the way people are. The worst ones are the newbies who become overnight experts dishing out poor advice or the self promoting twerps who just want to get more hits on their latest crap youtube videos.

Over the years there's only half a dozen on here I look up to and probably only one supplier possibly two who talk any sense.

I had wondered why I'm not on your xmas card list 

[Fin Clearview]

There more window cleaners in this country than plumbers the only people making real money in this business are  the people who sell the equipment ie the same people who run and operate this forum and we are the mugs who help and promote more people to start up a business give them help and advice only for them to  under price well established windies

This is why over the last year or so I have stopped giving away anything new I have found out.

The more sensible comment I've read here lately. Too much transparency on this site imo..some say tongue in cheek while others read as black n white. Then they moan about new start ups undercutting them   

Met a trad cleaner sometime ago and was just about to go over to WFP. Told if he needed advice on systems or what to buy then gimme a call. Chap said no need. Went into his cab got the box file and it was crammed full of screen shots from
Various sites lol. Lurkers on every site tbh

^ 100% not surprising.

[mark15]

No Daz, she's sacked you 'cos you are crap! She's waited ten years to find a proper window cleaner - cheaper too 

[jarvy]

Good job you dont do commercial then,when the crud nationals come in and  you end up losing hundreds a month to them.

[dazmond]

Good job you dont do commercial then,when the crud nationals come in and  you end up losing hundreds a month to them.

i do clean commercial jobs as well mate(mainly offices,care homes,nurseries etc) but most work is indeed domestic.

[NWH]

Some customers will always base their decisions on price- move on along the same road you are already travelling.

Your not one of those idiots who knock on my door from time to time are you lol

[NWH]

Papa don't preach lol

[Joey Eastwood]

theres always enough work for everyone, anyone moaning about 'newbies' was obviously born with a pole in one hand... lol. if you are moaning about new people taking all the work you dont canvas enough or in a big enough area, people canvas FOR A LIVING EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR lol, generating £££££s of work, this industry is far from saturated theres thousands of houses to every shiner in this country