[jwplasterers]

Anyone know how to get nicotine off upvc facias gutters just doing some tried cif , virosol no joy. Never had this before

[jwplasterers]

How do you remove this nothing touches it

[Matt.]

It may help, similar to cif but Ajax, it's hard to get hold of but I reckon it's the only thing that may help.

Is that internal or external.

[Elfyn]

Some things just won't come off - it's a fact of life.

[PoleKing]

I can't quite work out the angle of that picture.

It will come back but it depends if you think it's worth it.
You can sand it back.
Start about 120g and work up to about a 1000 wet & dry.
About 4 or 5 stages should do it.
Then rub with cif or a similar abrasive cleaner.
Then you need to protect it with something like pledge, or a silicone based furniture polish.
Like I say, it's a lot of work.
I see you're a plasterer so perhaps it's for your own home, so might be worth the Argo. But as a paid job-I wouldn't bother.

[jwplasterers]

It's like the bend on downspouts you know the bit that you can never get off

[kevincoggan]

cheaper to replace the joints than spend a lot of time cleaning them

[jwplasterers]

The dirt that's normally on the joints is all the way on both side of gutters,  Don't think anything will shift it even scrapers on it has trouble

[Smudger]

Starbrite black streak remover

Darran

[jwplasterers]

Cheers Darren will try it😃

[chris turner]

Steel wool. Not the crappy wire wool you get from hardware shops though, actual steel wool.
It gets rid of everything, I use it on customers doorsteps to remove those black shoe marks and other stains. A few light rubs and looks like new.
It's brill on fascias as well, if I can't get marks off with the pole out comes the ladder and steel wool.

[Smudger]

Steel wool. Not the crappy wire wool you get from hardware shops though, actual steel wool.
It gets rid of everything, I use it on customers doorsteps to remove those black shoe marks and other stains. A few light rubs and looks like new.
It's brill on fascias as well, if I can't get marks off with the pole out comes the ladder and steel wool.

So what do you do about the ruined surface and scratches ?

Darran

[chris turner]

Doesn't cause any scratches smudger. Even if it did you wouldn't even see them on white upvc. Gentle rubbing is all that is needed, stains disappear in seconds.
Iv been using it for years on doorsteps, doors, frames, fascias and never once had a complaint about scratches.

[chris turner]

The stuff I use I can't find online, it's not the same stuff you get from homebase etc that's used for stripping paint.
The one I use is a shiny metallic type, coiled up into a ball.
I get it from a local cleaning supplies shop. It doesn't scratch where as the paint stripper stuff will.

Stainless steel wool balls....Just found them.

[Tadgh O Shea]

The stuff I use I can't find online, it's not the same stuff you get from homebase etc that's used for stripping paint.
The one I use is a shiny metallic type, coiled up into a ball.
I get it from a local cleaning supplies shop. It doesn't scratch where as the paint stripper stuff will.

Stainless steel wool balls....Just found them.

Chris in all fairness stainless steel scouring pads will seriously scratch pvc surfaces, if used on white pvc they will leave a dark shading which cannot be removed afterwards, as Smudger has mentioned you will ruin the surface.

[chris turner]

Tadgh iv used it for years no problems. If used correctly it causes no problems.
I cleaned a new house last week where I used the stainless wool on the front door and doorstep, which had lots of black marks all over it, the lady was amazed at how good it looked, 'like new' were her exact words.
Iv used this stuff on hundreds of new build houses over the last couple of years to remove cement and all sorts of marks off window frames and sills. If it was causing any significant damage I would of heard some sort of complaint. On one site alone iv done over 200 houses using stainless steel wool for the build and sparkle cleans. Not one single complaint.

[Mike #1]

Starbrite black streak remover

Darran

So Darren I assume you have used it on a multitude of stains and scuffs and it just cuts straight through with ease if so I will defo buy a bottle ,

Is it safe to use on self cleaning glass as looking for the safest chemical to use on plastics on a conny roof for a future job . Best Regards Mike

[Smudger]

Yes used it a number of times, it comes out as a last resort for marks and stains that normal cleaning does not take off (quite rare) as for use on self cleaning glass you need to consult the official safe chemical list then make your decision, IME ive never needed anything stronger than pure water when doing self cleaning glass works.

Chris, guttering and sills are extruded in this process the plastic is forced through a highly polished die this gives a microscopic hard shiney outer surface once scratched no matter how lightly the inner "soft" plastic is exposed and will over time degrage, it may not be next week, but over a year or so it will dull and go grey.

I'm just offering up information, your happily cleaning hundreds of houses this way, so carry on as you are, I just wouldn't reccomend it to others

Darran

[chris turner]

Yes used it a number of times, it comes out as a last resort for marks and stains that normal cleaning does not take off (quite rare) as for use on self cleaning glass you need to consult the official safe chemical list then make your decision, IME ive never needed anything stronger than pure water when doing self cleaning glass works.

Chris, guttering and sills are extruded in this process the plastic is forced through a highly polished die this gives a microscopic hard shiney outer surface once scratched no matter how lightly the inner "soft" plastic is exposed and will over time degrage, it may not be next week, but over a year or so it will dull and go grey.

I'm just offering up information, your happily cleaning hundreds of houses this way, so carry on as you are, I just wouldn't reccomend it to others

Darran

Ok Darren, can I offer you an example..
3 years ago I picked up a house, large 4 bed with con, front door and step was relatively new but the step was covered in black shoe scuff marks.
I used the stainless wool on the entire step, bringing it up like new, and have continued doing this once every 6 months or so at the customers request to remove the shoe scuff marks.
3 years on the step shows no sign of discolouring, degrading or any other wear and tear. It still looks new to this day.

I think you are mistaking stainless steel wire wool for good old fashioned plain wire wool, which I did try once and you are right, it did scratch and leave the area looking 'dull'.
Good quality stainless steel wool isn't as abrasive, iv even used it on painted doors to remove marks without stripping the paintwork.

[capn sparkle]

Anyone know how to get nicotine off upvc facias gutters just doing some tried cif , virosol no joy. Never had this before

TBH this looks like Calcium staining from water residue not nicotine...

I would try a mild acid like Winsol 550 or even Cillit Bang bathroom / shower cleaner.

Will be a pig to get off whatever you use.

HTH