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Chip Ward

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2015, 11:49:22 am »
Thanks Stuart,

I last used many years ago and wondered if it might be suitable as I have some low profile nylon carpet tiles in a restaurant  to low moisture clean. They have light protien build up near the kitchen and on drink spills etc

stuart_clark

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2015, 12:33:05 pm »
Chip
you would probably get a very good result, but you might get a better result with a HD encap ?
 I've used Dynamal and Hydrox on protein stains and had excellent results, the Enzyme shampoo is good as far as I can remember and it crystallises similar to an encap but might leave more of a sticky residue , I am not sure, I used quite a bit of 161 before ancapping and got good results


Stuart

Chip Ward

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2015, 06:55:09 pm »
It encapsulates soil residues and can be mixed with traffic lane cleaner, and energizer to boost cleaning. It'll be interesting to try?

Which encap product do you prefer and how many metres would you expect to clean from a gallon concentrate of both products Stuart?

Cheers

Chip

stuart_clark

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2015, 07:31:33 pm »
Just come back from cleaning a Specsavers store thats quite local to me, I used Releasit DS2 mixed at 32 to 1 and got a cracking result, think I used 600ml of concentrate to clean the whole shop and it has two floors


Stuart

Simon Campbell

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2015, 07:46:19 pm »
Every credit for working til this time on a Sunday Stuart. That is what I would call dedication to your job!  I'm going to start targeting the commercial market this year, just bought some hydrox just to try at first and see how I go.

Craigp

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2015, 08:23:31 pm »
Encapping just isn't that good, don't expect too good results.

Simon Campbell

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2015, 08:29:00 pm »
yeah I must admit I bought a heated rotary system last year thinking it was the dogs but not really that impressed. Still opened minded however but I can only try encapp and see

stuart_clark

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2015, 08:40:10 pm »
There is a massive difference between bonnet cleaning and ecap cleaning with a pad ! Believe me I've used bonnets for nearly twenty years but after using pads I would never go back to bonnets



Stuart

Simon Campbell

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2015, 08:45:43 pm »
Yeah I've been reading about the pads. Gunna try the White pad to start. Totally unintentional but I am doing some volunteering at a local hospice one day a month and basically I think I am cleaning all the carpets and Chairs so a really good chance to hone these skills.

*Hector*

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2015, 08:26:35 am »
There is a massive difference between bonnet cleaning and ecap cleaning with a pad ! Believe me I've used bonnets for nearly twenty years but after using pads I would never go back to bonnets



Stuart
Have you not tried going over it with a bonnet after the encap scrub with a pad?
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stuart_clark

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2015, 08:40:40 am »
Hector

why double up on the work mate if it already looks good ? And if the rest is just vacumed up a few days later who cares ?




Stuart

stuart_clark

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2015, 08:46:24 am »
Hector

a few months ago I cleaned a stretch of carpet at middlesbrough Specsavers, then a couple of days went back and vacumed the area! I must of filled a third of a bag on my sebo dart, I boneted over that area again and there was very little transfer




Stuart

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2015, 11:41:39 am »
Chemspec have now discontinued Enzyme Carpet Shampoo :(

*Hector*

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2015, 11:47:40 am »
Hector

why double up on the work mate if it already looks good ? And if the rest is just vacumed up a few days later who cares ?




Stuart

That's fair enough Stu..... on commercials.. I used to do it on domestics though, as you can never rely on the customer to do a good job with the vacuum..... It also helped with the drying.. I never had a complaint from a domestic LM/encap clean...  ;D
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David Ware

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2015, 12:32:44 pm »
There is a massive difference between bonnet cleaning and ecap cleaning with a pad ! Believe me I've used bonnets for nearly twenty years but after using pads I would never go back to bonnets



Stuart
Have you not tried going over it with a bonnet after the encap scrub with a pad?

+1. After encapping with a pad we use a bonnet afterwards most of the time with the way we work. Personally If you can extract as much soil as possible before leaving the better.
David

JandS

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2015, 12:46:42 pm »
I've always sprayed down the encap and rotary brushed the stuff in...is it more beneficial using the pad??
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

*Hector*

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2015, 01:24:36 pm »
try using a tan pad John...

What brush do you use on the rotary? if it is the shampoo brush, you will get much better agitation with a pad....
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Chip Ward

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2015, 02:08:31 pm »
Chemspec have now discontinued Enzyme Carpet Shampoo :(

The swines! 😜 Just as I thought I'd had a good idea!😞

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2015, 02:10:05 pm »
Think along the lines of washing dishes:

Shampoo brush = dish brush
Dish cloth = bonnet
Pot Scourer = Agitation pad

The chemistry will take care of the soil. All you need to do is get it off the fibre.

A good quality encapsulation product will allow the increased aggression as it has agents that lubricate.



Jamie Pearson

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Re: Insecure with encapping
« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2015, 02:28:04 pm »
Chemspec have now discontinued Enzyme Carpet Shampoo :(

The swines! 😜 Just as I thought I'd had a good idea!😞

Its fairly recent. You could always use Prekleen or Enzall to boost Formula 161 to get the same type of product and use.