[Brendan (chem2clean)]

If I am honest , I think I need to try some of the new encapping products and a machine like a cimex . If I have a large commercial I usually Hwe and use my low speed rotary. Time consuming , am I working to hard unnecessarily .?

[neil 47]

Yes

[Brendan (chem2clean)]

 

[stuart_clark]

You dont need  to go to the expense of a cimex to start encapping mate,  I use my Chemspec Chemstractor more than my Cimex for most comercial jobs, all you need is a good low speed rotary some buff or fibre plus pads from CSUK and the chemical and there is loads to choose from !


Stuart

[Brendan (chem2clean)]

Hey Stuart , I have been what is now called encapping for 20 years. I have stuck with the same machines 175 rotary, pads and bonnets and the same products . Just don't feel that it cleans as good as when I use both systems. When I look at some pics of rat nasties, a cimex and dynamall I am amazed...

[William Sharpe]

I have just completed a large reception and corridor area of a country club. I started with encap -pre-vac spray on a top of the range encap solution and completed about 40 sqm when decided this was not giving a great result went back onto HWE firstly over where i encapped and the colour of the water was black like guiness. carried on to complete the other 300sqm with extraction which ended up quicker and with far better results. So unless i'm doing something wrong I will stick to HWE

Reg

[stuart_clark]

Chem2clean

I have been bonnet cleaning for about 20 years but when I discovered you can get a much better result using a pad with an encapp chemical I stopped using bonnets,  the shower feed on the Chemstractor combined with the right pad and chemical just about cuts through the dirtiest mingers
I only use the Cimes for large open spaces such as corridors ect, the rest are cleaned with the Chemstractor


Stuart

[neil 47]

I encap as much as possible as I'm getting on and I can cover huge areas within budgets that company's want to spend .
 
Plus points

It drys fast
It solves wick back problems
It stops over wetting odour problems
It's fast
It's cheap to set up
Customers love it
I love it
June really loves it
It makes me earn a high hourly rate
It gives a instant great visual appearance
I have never had one complaint using this method the opposite in fact


Bad points

It dosent deep clean .

[gwrightson]

I encap as much as possible as I'm getting on and I can cover huge areas within budgets that company's want to spend .
 
Plus points

It drys fast
It solves wick back problems
It stops over wetting odour problems
It's fast
It's cheap to set up
Customers love it
I love it
June really loves it
It makes me earn a high hourly rate
It gives a instant great visual appearance
I have never had one complaint using this method the opposite in fact


Bad points

It dosent deep clean .

I willl go along with that.

geoff

[carpetmonsters]

Stuart

What pads and chems do you use? Same on all carpets?

Steve

[peter maybury]

With a descent extraction system You will still get fast drying without odour problems. Wick back is also something that can be foreseen and overcome.
I do a lot of encapping but there are a lot of situations where you will get a better result with HWE. On many small commercial jobs it is a lot quicker to set up and do the carpets with the truckmount as a wand is a lot easier to use a wand that a rotary, in tight areas. If you are having odour problems due to over wetting you are definitely doing something wrong.
Peter

[Brendan (chem2clean)]

Sound Stewart , yeah I can see where the cimex would be awkward in a small cluttered commercial , I'd say your eyes light up when you price a large open plan odfice😉😉😉

[neil 47]

Peter

I haven't got a truckmount and don't want a truck mount .

I have a rotary and a few pads a sprayer and some encap . Cost £200

I don't have odour problems or wick back as I encap .

They don't know what a truckmount is and I'm sure they are excellent and earn you tons .but I'm in a different position

[stuart_clark]

Chem2clean
I have a large installation to clean next week, should take about four days, will be using the Cimex for that one as its in exess of 25,000 sq ft
it usually takes 5-6 days with the chestractor, high quality  low profile carpet, willbe using white/ buff pads and a combination of Odour kill plus at 20 /1 and releasit DS2

[neil 47]

Chem2clean

Are you mixing the two products together or post spraying with door kill plus

Cheers Neil

[Simon Campbell]

Sorry to hi-jack the thread.

I've just volunteered at a local hospice thinking I would just be a dogs body but as it turns out I think I will be cleaning all the carpets and chairs when I go one day a month.

I did the reception carpet last night with a thermadry and Craftex catalyst using bonnets. It did an ok job and this method has done great in the past but last night I was left wondering how could I get that wow factor.

I think this will actually be a good opportunity to hone my commercials skills. So my question was going to be does encapp work and what chemicals to use?

Thanks in advance

[Brendan (chem2clean)]

Neill , I have never used odour kill plus, is it good? Mainly use prochem products.

Stewart , nice contract 25,000. It's jobs like that the cimex would come into it's own. What about the desk area, ifs it's heavily soiled do you Hwe this area?

[neil 47]

Sorry I meant Stuart

[stuart_clark]

Chem2clean firstly its an up market care home, it never gets realy dirty, I am there every other month, but it gets a full clean once a year !  I will take my Chemstractor as well as a Dryfusion machine also and I have a mini hos for the stairs and such like,

neil I use mainly Chemspecs Odour Kill plus at 20 to 1 it is an encapsulant you know ? And when the carpets are post vacumed a few days later by the staff which incidently all use BS36s it will reactive the smell

I will use Releasit Ds for the stairs and lobby's

Stuart

[Robin Ray]

Does the Chemstractor not have the added benefit of extracting as you bonnet. Or do you just use it as a normal rotary?