[bobplum]

As the title says, it seems to have gone quite on this subject, still not decided whether to buy or not

[Clever Forum Name]

They offer a money back guarantee all bar postage. So you having nothing to lose apart from your eyesight i mean postage.

[kempy]

Like already stated , we do offer a refund .
So far I think weve refunded just once and that was because they use Di after the tank.

[Paul erithwc]

Bought some earlier so i will see what its like next week.

You can't judge a product without using it 

Paul

[capn sparkle]

Ohhhhhhhhh!!! THAT Vision!

[kevincoggan]

Like already stated , we do offer a refund .
So far I think weve refunded just once and that was because they use Di after the tank.

which i am very much on solving this and i think that the solution is around two or three months away-still testing

[Smudger]

Just finished our first bottle, the guys like it, no complaints, plecibo or not the work rate has also increased 

Buying more 

Trying gg4 on the strength of dave Willis 

Darran

[Dave Willis]

still using GG4 no problems, 2ml for every 100l Let us know how you get on either way.

[Bungle]

still using GG4 no problems, 2ml for every 100l Let us know how you get on either way.

I have some gg4 on order. Will try it out in a  25l trolley barrel on my own house first.

[SB Cleaning]

To early to tell for me but I will say that some windows I usually get spotting with haven't been a problem since using vision and I'm sure the glass looks cleaner..but it might just be me thinking it

[Small but perfectley formed]

it does make the windows shine, i also love it for Trad work i mix 10ml in 240 ml ecover washing up liquid then i put in 250ml liquid sop dispenser put about 10-13 pumps in 8l to 10l pure in bucket.
Only problem i have is the gas water heater is temperamental with vision in water don't no wether coincidence.

[Dave Willis]

Why would you trad clean with it at £60 a litre

You can buy ecover for £2.50 a litre. Nuts

[Small but perfectley formed]

Dave 10 ml in 240 ml it last at least a month it only costs pence per bucket

[duncan h]

Love the shine. Not so good on rinsing. Looks like ill be using it for quite some time to come. Hot days may be different

[Mike #1]

8 weeks of use and can defo tell the difference nice shine to plastics and my work rate is up . 

I only add one push of the plunger to 400ltrs of water daily hardly any bubbles at least not to hinder rinsing and still get a good glide across makes leaded windows easier to clean

[kempy]

Nice one .

[Barryy]

still using GG4 no problems, 2ml for every 100l Let us know how you get on either way.

Hi Dave, I'd be very interested in finding out how you get on using GG4. I presume you explained in a previous thread the benefits of using it in your pure water. I had a quick look back but couldn't find anything, do you have a link to a relevant thread?

[Dave Willis]

Oh gosh, there was loads, here's one      http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=192726.0

this was the first one   http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=192411.0


I don't have any conclusive proof it's any better than pure water alone, it just seems better to me, doesn't spot and haven't yet found any negatives at all. Seems to thin the water down and break the surface tension.Certainly leaves the glass with a shine.

ps. I'm not competing against Vision at all - there's nothing in it for me. Just had some GG4 already and thought I'd experiment a bit.

[Mike #1]

Fancy trialing Stardrops Dave I have only added some when tradding Windows at home and when doing the washing up and the glass really does sparkle .

Not willing to Chuck any in my tank though and don't have any 5 gallon containers to to test it out .

[Dave Willis]

  I did think about it. I think there's loads of products that would have similar properties.
I chose GG4 because it was designed for cleaning windows and the manufacturers were contactable by email - they say it can be used for wfp. They also claim it has an ingredient that eliminates calcium spotting
If it all went tits up I could discuss it with them and find out why, or simply stop using it and keep it for trad.