[Jakey boy]

Another clueless window cleaner asking if buying a cheap poop machine from jetmac is enough to call himself a pressure washing service. Doesn't even know what hypo is despite the 1000s of posts on the internet about it.

Tell you what mate, Ill buy a crappy rag and start cleaning windows really bad without any knowledge and I'll ask all the big window cleaning firms for loads of free advice but then get cocky when they reply.

This is what f***s me off about this group and other groups on facebook, and its the reason I dont come on here anymore. Window cleaners that dont know the difference between hypo and their elbow.

I certainly wont be helping out any of you thats for sure.

For goodness sake shut up!

I've cleaned loads and loads of driveways and patios, never ever had a problem, just looking to get a more practical machine to do the job a bit faster etc, never had a reason to know what 'hypo' Is, as water is fine on its own for what we do!

How do you expect people to know things that they've never learnt? It's impossible! You imbesile.

[chris scott]

Another clueless window cleaner asking if buying a cheap poop machine from jetmac is enough to call himself a pressure washing service. Doesn't even know what hypo is despite the 1000s of posts on the internet about it.

Tell you what mate, Ill buy a crappy rag and start cleaning windows really bad without any knowledge and I'll ask all the big window cleaning firms for loads of free advice but then get cocky when they reply.

This is what f***s me off about this group and other groups on facebook, and its the reason I dont come on here anymore. Window cleaners that dont know the difference between hypo and their elbow.

I certainly wont be helping out any of you thats for sure.

For goodness sake shut up!

I've cleaned loads and loads of driveways and patios, never ever had a problem, just looking to get a more practical machine to do the job a bit faster etc, never had a reason to know what 'hypo' Is, as water is fine on its own for what we do!

How do you expect people to know things that they've never learnt? It's impossible! You imbesile.

"Imbecile" is actually the word you are looking for.

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Chris , Don't know about you but i feel "Hypotension" in this thread 
Ed

[JetVac Cleaning]

So am I right in thinking that where Iv been going wrong all this time is I need water in my pressure washer   now I know why my works no good. 

[CleanClear]

Another clueless window cleaner asking if buying a cheap poop machine from jetmac is enough to call himself a pressure washing service. Doesn't even know what hypo is despite the 1000s of posts on the internet about it.

Tell you what mate, Ill buy a crappy rag and start cleaning windows really bad without any knowledge and I'll ask all the big window cleaning firms for loads of free advice but then get cocky when they reply.

This is what f***s me off about this group and other groups on facebook, and its the reason I dont come on here anymore. Window cleaners that dont know the difference between hypo and their elbow.

I certainly wont be helping out any of you thats for sure.

Just out of interest, and seeing as you appear to know so much information you're infact going to purposley hold it back, why do you come here ?

[CleanClear]

So if I went on the window cleaning side of this forum asking for advise on offering window cleaning as a bolt on to my pressure washing business do you think anybody would actually help? I Think not!!! Iv tried this in the past and you lot only look after your own interests.

Yep they would and do !! They show you how to make controllers, how to sort your RO out, what booster pump you need, whats a good pole etc... But you already knew that? Window cleaning is technical. Pressure washing is for monkees. There's only so many variables once you progress to machines which deliver higher that 13LPM . And that sums it up. Most of you are clueless anyway and even put them in a shop to have them serviced. Thats the extent of a lot of the technical knowledge here. You only know what machine to buy, and employ someone thick enough to stand on the end of a lance all day 

[Kevin Miller]

So if I went on the window cleaning side of this forum asking for advise on offering window cleaning as a bolt on to my pressure washing business do you think anybody would actually help? I Think not!!! Iv tried this in the past and you lot only look after your own interests.

Yep they would and do !! They show you how to make controllers, how to sort your RO out, what booster pump you need, whats a good pole etc... But you already knew that? Window cleaning is technical. Pressure washing is for monkees. There's only so many variables once you progress to machines which deliver higher that 13LPM . And that sums it up. Most of you are clueless anyway and even put them in a shop to have them serviced. Thats the extent of a lot of the technical knowledge here. You only know what machine to buy, and employ someone thick enough to stand on the end of a lance all day 

Good one if window cleaning is technical and pressure washing is for monkeys why do monkeys keep coming on here asking how do you pressure wash and what is hippo.

[Matt Gibson]

So if I went on the window cleaning side of this forum asking for advise on offering window cleaning as a bolt on to my pressure washing business do you think anybody would actually help? I Think not!!! Iv tried this in the past and you lot only look after your own interests.

Yep they would and do !! They show you how to make controllers, how to sort your RO out, what booster pump you need, whats a good pole etc... But you already knew that? Window cleaning is technical. Pressure washing is for monkees. There's only so many variables once you progress to machines which deliver higher that 13LPM . And that sums it up. Most of you are clueless anyway and even put them in a shop to have them serviced. Thats the extent of a lot of the technical knowledge here. You only know what machine to buy, and employ someone thick enough to stand on the end of a lance all day 

Post of the year so far..

[Matt Gibson]

[chris scott]

And people say we monkey around.
But we're too busy washing
To put anybody down.

[JetVac Cleaning]

All glass is the same and so is purified water , it's either pure or it is not. How the f**k is that technical? You scrub and squirt the same surfaces all day long yet you think its a really technical job. Get over yourself you complete and utter twat! You people really have not got a clue about anything really and you can all go round with your Aldi pressure washers damaging people's paving and pointing because you don't know one end of a jetwash lance to the other or anything to do with flow, correct chemicals or surfaces.

[JetVac Cleaning]

So if I went on the window cleaning side of this forum asking for advise on offering window cleaning as a bolt on to my pressure washing business do you think anybody would actually help? I Think not!!! Iv tried this in the past and you lot only look after your own interests.

Yep they would and do !! They show you how to make controllers, how to sort your RO out, what booster pump you need, whats a good pole etc... But you already knew that? Window cleaning is technical. Pressure washing is for monkees. There's only so many variables once you progress to machines which deliver higher that 13LPM . And that sums it up. Most of you are clueless anyway and even put them in a shop to have them serviced. Thats the extent of a lot of the technical knowledge here. You only know what machine to buy, and employ someone thick enough to stand on the end of a lance all day 

this is coming from a business that offers professional carpet cleaning! WITH A RUG DOCTOR MACHINE !!! Quality just Quality.

[CleanClear]

So if I went on the window cleaning side of this forum asking for advise on offering window cleaning as a bolt on to my pressure washing business do you think anybody would actually help? I Think not!!! Iv tried this in the past and you lot only look after your own interests.

Yep they would and do !! They show you how to make controllers, how to sort your RO out, what booster pump you need, whats a good pole etc... But you already knew that? Window cleaning is technical. Pressure washing is for monkees. There's only so many variables once you progress to machines which deliver higher that 13LPM . And that sums it up. Most of you are clueless anyway and even put them in a shop to have them serviced. Thats the extent of a lot of the technical knowledge here. You only know what machine to buy, and employ someone thick enough to stand on the end of a lance all day 

this is coming from a business that offers professional carpet cleaning! WITH A RUG DOCTOR MACHINE !!! Quality just Quality.

You've put 2+2 and come up with 5. I've never owned a carpet cleaner in my life, nor a rug doctor. But i'll tell my mate to go give everyone their money back ans stop taking anymore bookings for it. Sorry about that !! 

[CleanClear]

All glass is the same

ok 

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Hi guys,

Just have a few questions that you guys with expierence will be able to answer!

1. Is 3000psi at 12lpm enough for patios and driveways? (I'll only be doing around 2-4 jobs a month as its an add on service)

2. Are the Loncin engine(s) reliable?

3. Is jetmac a good place to buy from? His prices seem by far the cheapest?

4. Do I need any detergents for patios etc? If so what do you guys recommend as 'must have' detergents etc, or a general cleaning detergent that you always carry with you?

5. Do I really need a 'whirlaway' type accessory? Or will a turbo nozzle be sufficient for the amount of work I'll be doing?

Any info and advice is much appreciated, I won't be doing many jobs per month, so budget is rather limited. Main income is window cleaning, however would like to be able to take on a bit more pressure washing work without having to suffer the crap electric one I have!

I will mainly be doing customers patios and driveways, so do you think the 7hp Loncin 3000psi at 12lpm will be a good choice? I'm not looking to be super fast as this is an extra service. How ever I don't want to come unstuck and not be able to clean certain stains etc...

The next level would be the 14 hp Loncin 4000psi  15lpm, but the price is a lot more, and will I really need that extra power and flow?

Many thanks guys!

 





 

I use my WFP !

[tonyoliver]

love this thread I am mostly spend my time on the window cleaning side I would dearly love to pressure wash full time
after 30 years as its same old same old.
I would and always will defer to experience and you guys have it in bundles.
 idiots will stop the free flow of help and advice just like  on the other side of the forum
 i was on a job and saw another"professional wc" on a very large grand Victorian house working  away  but noticed his ladder was just on the edge of the frame, very dangerous
told him to watch out only to be told f off you c I been doing it for two years there isn't nothing you can tell me sod off followed by more abuse,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 5 mins later bang crash  screams of pain with a large piece of glass sticking out of his arm  about 20 stiches worth of Painesville called an ambulance and wondered why oh why did he not listen  all he could do was continue to abuse me and the ambulance crew very sad
moral always listen to good advice trust the experts

[Rob_Mac]

Come on chaps

It's getting a little silly now.

Cleanclear's post was a bit tongue in cheek, there was a smiley at the end of it. Or at least that is how I read it.

When I first came on the forum there was the massive debate between trad & WFP, the new guys getting into some very heated debates with the old school.

There's no need to be fighting amongst ourselves.

As Tony has said, advice is, or has always been given freely, on all sections of the forum and it ought to continue and we ought to all be professionals on here (at whatever level) and this has become bickering.

The problem we have is no one can be ar*ed to read the back posts anymore and if there hasn't been a response within 5 minutes then, particularly on this section, we have become a closed group.

I have worked really hard over the period I have been self employed and have built up experience and capability that I now realise has value and I don't want to give that out freely.

Remember Rees and the cleaning bible - ask the guys who bought into it how much that pile of crap (in my opinion) cost them !!!

I have done though, time and time again, IF YOU READ THE BACK POSTS and everything anyone will ever need is in there from the experienced guys, not just me.

I think the natural evolving of the forum is one where the (perceived as) experts give less and let the upcoming lads take over, with the experts stepping in when it gets technical, if they want to.

I know a lot of the people I talk to feel the same, a lot of that is down to repetitivity and one other factor (from my perspective - anyone guess what it is)

Rob

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Well said Rob ! Ever thought about becoming a politician 

Tony , there is a wealth of hands on experience in this sector that will give you advice. Just don't ask me ! 

Ed

[Great Outdoors]

Come on chaps

It's getting a little silly now.

Cleanclear's post was a bit tongue in cheek, there was a smiley at the end of it. Or at least that is how I read it.

When I first came on the forum there was the massive debate between trad & WFP, the new guys getting into some very heated debates with the old school.

There's no need to be fighting amongst ourselves.

As Tony has said, advice is, or has always been given freely, on all sections of the forum and it ought to continue and we ought to all be professionals on here (at whatever level) and this has become bickering.

The problem we have is no one can be ar*ed to read the back posts anymore and if there hasn't been a response within 5 minutes then, particularly on this section, we have become a closed group.

I have worked really hard over the period I have been self employed and have built up experience and capability that I now realise has value and I don't want to give that out freely.

Remember Rees and the cleaning bible - ask the guys who bought into it how much that pile of crap (in my opinion) cost them !!!

I have done though, time and time again, IF YOU READ THE BACK POSTS and everything anyone will ever need is in there from the experienced guys, not just me.

I think the natural evolving of the forum is one where the (perceived as) experts give less and let the upcoming lads take over, with the experts stepping in when it gets technical, if they want to.

I know a lot of the people I talk to feel the same, a lot of that is down to repetitivity and one other factor (from my perspective - anyone guess what it is)

Rob

Sorry but I just don't understand or agree with your post.
I certainly wouldn't be defending 'Cleanclear' the guys only after one thing winding people up which has negative effect on everyone. This can be seen by Roger's replies to a few posts

In your post you also contradict yourself, you state advice 'ought to continue' you then state, in ref to advice 'I now realise has value and I don't want to give that out freely'
So which is it then ?

Sadly I agree with Mr B and JetVac sentiments I also don't wish to be patronized  
If you feel this is getting a 'little silly now' try reading some of your posts with young Chris

Mike

[chris scott]

Come on chaps

It's getting a little silly now.

Cleanclear's post was a bit tongue in cheek, there was a smiley at the end of it. Or at least that is how I read it.

When I first came on the forum there was the massive debate between trad & WFP, the new guys getting into some very heated debates with the old school.

There's no need to be fighting amongst ourselves.

As Tony has said, advice is, or has always been given freely, on all sections of the forum and it ought to continue and we ought to all be professionals on here (at whatever level) and this has become bickering.

The problem we have is no one can be ar*ed to read the back posts anymore and if there hasn't been a response within 5 minutes then, particularly on this section, we have become a closed group.

I have worked really hard over the period I have been self employed and have built up experience and capability that I now realise has value and I don't want to give that out freely.

Remember Rees and the cleaning bible - ask the guys who bought into it how much that pile of crap (in my opinion) cost them !!!

I have done though, time and time again, IF YOU READ THE BACK POSTS and everything anyone will ever need is in there from the experienced guys, not just me.

I think the natural evolving of the forum is one where the (perceived as) experts give less and let the upcoming lads take over, with the experts stepping in when it gets technical, if they want to.

I know a lot of the people I talk to feel the same, a lot of that is down to repetitivity and one other factor (from my perspective - anyone guess what it is)

Rob

Rob.

I realise we have had our differences and I apologise  if I have offended you in any way.

 I now realise that is time for me to grow up and move forward to offer a professional service (such as yours), so this is  directly for you as I feel you are best qualified to help.

How do I go about quoting for large works ..such as supermarket roofs , carparks ?
Who would be my first contact?
What prices should I charge?

Thanks in advance