[CleanClear]

I certainly wouldn't be defending 'Cleanclear' the guys only after one thing winding people which has negative effect on everyone. This can be seen by Roger's replies to a few posts
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Sadly I agree with Mr B and JetVac sentiments I also don't wish to be patronized 

Err, i gave a toungue in cheek reply. I'm not winding anyone up. It is funny though in so much as you, Mr.B and whoever else does not want to give advice have a lot to say about it. For a negative effect, read back this thread and look at your own posts. You don't wanna offer advice, cool. See ya.

[Rob_Mac]

Mike

I hand out a lot of advice, a lot on here, a lot off the forum and continue to do so but I have experience that I see as having value, that's the bit I am talking about. the repeat questions can easily be 'investigated' and I see as not looking for the information in the back posts.

As far as 'the advice ought to continue' then why not let the newer guys become the ones with that give out that info. You are putting two entirely different parts of the post together.

My experience would be down to managing & dealing with much larger projects, from enquiry to completion. We both priced up Bedfordshire, were within 20 pence of each other as far as costing so we both know what we are talking about and managing much larger projects than most deal with on here.

There was nothing in my post that was meant to be patronising, to anyone at all so which part of it is aimed at you?

You'll notice my rhetoric with Chris has stopped and it won't continue.

And as far as you not agreeing with the post........ It's a forum, I don't care

Have a good day

Rob

[Ian101]

so was 12lpm good enough then ?

[Ian101]

im not biased 

[Rob_Mac]

Come on chaps

It's getting a little silly now.

Cleanclear's post was a bit tongue in cheek, there was a smiley at the end of it. Or at least that is how I read it.

When I first came on the forum there was the massive debate between trad & WFP, the new guys getting into some very heated debates with the old school.

There's no need to be fighting amongst ourselves.

As Tony has said, advice is, or has always been given freely, on all sections of the forum and it ought to continue and we ought to all be professionals on here (at whatever level) and this has become bickering.

The problem we have is no one can be ar*ed to read the back posts anymore and if there hasn't been a response within 5 minutes then, particularly on this section, we have become a closed group.

I have worked really hard over the period I have been self employed and have built up experience and capability that I now realise has value and I don't want to give that out freely.

Remember Rees and the cleaning bible - ask the guys who bought into it how much that pile of crap (in my opinion) cost them !!!

I have done though, time and time again, IF YOU READ THE BACK POSTS and everything anyone will ever need is in there from the experienced guys, not just me.

I think the natural evolving of the forum is one where the (perceived as) experts give less and let the upcoming lads take over, with the experts stepping in when it gets technical, if they want to.

I know a lot of the people I talk to feel the same, a lot of that is down to repetitivity and one other factor (from my perspective - anyone guess what it is)

Rob

Rob.

I realise we have had our differences and I apologise  if I have offended you in any way.

 I now realise that is time for me to grow up and move forward to offer a professional service (such as yours), so this is  directly for you as I feel you are best qualified to help.

How do I go about quoting for large works ..such as supermarket roofs , carparks ?
Who would be my first contact?
What prices should I charge?

Thanks in advance

I doubt I would be the right person to assist you.

Rob

[Great Outdoors]

Mike

I hand out a lot of advice, a lot on here, a lot off the forum and continue to do so but I have experience that I see as having value, that's the bit I am talking about. the repeat questions can easily be 'investigated' and I see as not looking for the information in the back posts.

As far as 'the advice ought to continue' then why not let the newer guys become the ones with that give out that info. You are putting two entirely different parts of the post together.

My experience would be down to managing & dealing with much larger projects, from enquiry to completion. We both priced up Bedfordshire, were within 20 pence of each other as far as costing so we both know what we are talking about and managing much larger projects than most deal with on here.

There was nothing in my post that was meant to be patronising, to anyone at all so which part of it is aimed at you?

You'll notice my rhetoric with Chris has stopped and it won't continue.

And as far as you not agreeing with the post........ It's a forum, I don't care

Have a good day

Rob

Fair enough, I except your explanation  But what do you mean you don't care  

More importantly who told you our cost      ..... from what I remember your cost didn't include re-sanding.


Mike 

[Rob_Mac]

Mike

I ain't falling out with anyone on here, not you, Chris or anyone else - that's what that meant.

I wish your business well

If you want to give me a ring I'll talk about it off the forum.

Rob

[chris scott]

So how do I price the "larger" projects?

[BDCS]

Largely the same as small jobs but sort of larger 

[Rob_Mac]

So how do I price the "larger" projects?

Are you saying you have no idea?

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

Largely the same as small jobs but sort of larger 

Just how i like my women...

[dmckellar]

why don't you just rent one when you have a few driveways to do, save the outlay and experiment with different machines before buying one?

[chris scott]

So how do I price the "larger" projects?

Are you saying you have no idea?

Rob

No idea really…i just guess and hope.
I just thought you might help. Being as you where saying we should all mentor those that don't know. Maybe you could start with me…we could set an example of how we should all proceed on this forum.

How do I go about quoting for large works ..such as supermarket roofs , carparks ?
Who would be my first contact?
What prices should I charge?
Thanks in advance ….

[Rob_Mac]

Start another thread then and see who will help out!

Rob

[CleanClear]

Start another thread then and see who will help out!

Rob

I'll be able to help him out. Not that i know anything about it, but its never stopped me talking about anything before !!! 

[Rob_Mac]

why don't you just rent one when you have a few driveways to do, save the outlay and experiment with different machines before buying one?

A woman?

Rob

[Matt.]

Av just sat an read the above posts.......... An it's a bit petty now, (I will have chris mentor me tho !) we know where we at but let's all be friends, we all scattered about around the country an a few years ago I was 100% trad, since coming on ere I have moved my business on loads. I didn't have an igloo about wfp and was convinced it was going to be a load.of bull dung ! How wrong was I. At Christmas I didn't have a clue about pressure washing never mind buying machine, or there capabilities. I didn't know chris from Adam but he got in touch told me a bit about machines and what was best for me and tbh if he hadn't I wouldn't have a machine now or I would of spent money on crap. Even rob has been in touch offering help so I am benefiting every were. This forum is a decent thing and I know everyone pes about when it comes to earning but bottom line is I have learnt loads off coming on here, av got to know loads of sound lads, who gave me info on what's what.  

Tbh we should all be throwing in to buy hypo and other chemicals in bulk to get the best possible deal.

Come on guys lets all be friends and no monkey business now.

Or some ones goin to have to go stand and face the corner for half hour.

[CleanClear]

 

Tbh we should all be throwing in to buy hypo and other chemicals in bulk to get the best possible deal.

Hypo, £16 , 25 litres, Wilson Road, Huyton.

[chris scott]

 

Tbh we should all be throwing in to buy hypo and other chemicals in bulk to get the best possible deal.

Hypo, £16 , 25 litres, Wilson Road, Huyton.

Whats the name of the supplier…do they do larger drums?

[Matt.]

What a shot clean clear, saves me a drive to Runcorn today.