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Walter Mitty

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Re: I`m still alive!!!
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2015, 05:49:59 pm »
It's ironic how many people (and I include myself in this) spend their lives sidestepping pain - yet the sidestepping eventually becomes more painful than facing up to the original pain.

Tom White

Re: I`m still alive!!!
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2015, 06:19:45 pm »
It's ironic how many people (and I include myself in this) spend their lives sidestepping pain - yet the sidestepping eventually becomes more painful than facing up to the original pain.

That's why rock bottoms are considered so important; 12 Step recovery organisations are the only lot that really understand that.

When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.  Pain is what helps the student to be ready. 

Walter Mitty

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Re: I`m still alive!!!
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2015, 06:41:08 pm »
It's ironic how many people (and I include myself in this) spend their lives sidestepping pain - yet the sidestepping eventually becomes more painful than facing up to the original pain.

That's why rock bottoms are considered so important; 12 Step recovery organisations are the only lot that really understand that.

When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.  Pain is what helps the student to be ready. 

Indeed - I'm delighted to see that you got your act togther too; you were still drinking the one and only time we met.  A very friendly drinker as I recall taking the p out of Ian Giles.  In case you're wondering, it was in that pub some years ago (near Birmingham I think).  That was actually fun even though I saw it all through lemonade tinted glasses :)

Gerald Ash

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Re: I`m still alive!!!
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2015, 07:05:16 pm »
Slight problem with the advice from those videos, I`m diabetic so I have to be careful.
 My sugars are out of control which is a large contributory factor.
  I`m afraid it`s the good old three meals a day and no snacks. The theory is I eat the calories that would sustain my weight that I need to be. Get familiar with that and fight the urges to binge and all should be fine.
Easy to say but I`m trying to think of ways to stop the inevitable boredom and temptation.
 Calorie counting is an absolute pain so I intend to make meals and count the calories to get an idea and carry on from that.
 The simple fact of not eating takeaways and snacking should be a head start.

Tom White

Re: I`m still alive!!!
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2015, 08:04:23 pm »
Easy to say but I`m trying to think of ways to stop the inevitable boredom and temptation.

And that's the real problem of addiction.  Being restless, irritable, and discontented.  I always thought that the problem with being sober was that you're sober, all of the time.  It's plain old boring - which is like British understatement.

In the early days, I did stuff like find a sponsor, go through the 12 Steps (which OA does too), go to meetings; I even went to meditation classes.  Meditation is pretty routine nowadays for relapse prevention.

The idea is to transform something negative (just not doing the addictive behaviour - it feels negative), into something positive.  If OA is like AA, it's a program of ACTION - doing stuff - not sitting on our arses feeling bored and sorry for ourselves (though I did plenty of that too).