[Mike Halliday]

Algex does what it says on the tin. Our customers are getting excellent results using it.

      http://www.restormate.co.uk/algex     

We are talking about lichen, will this remove lichen? 

[Great Outdoors]

Algex does what it says on the tin. Our customers are getting excellent results using it.

      http://www.restormate.co.uk/algex     

John,  trying to be careful here with the name 

Are your dilution rates correct ? 1:200 and not 1:20 ?

Cheers Mike

[chris scott]

John
No disrespect but the product is way overpriced  and the dilution rates (200:1 @ 15% active) I am guessing are miles out also. 

[John Kelly]

1 -200 is for ongoing maintenance treatment once you are down to a clean subtrate. Find it works well at 20 - 1 on even badly contaminated surfaces.

[John Kelly]

Chris how can you say its overpriced when similar products are 4 - 5 times more.

[Mike Halliday]

And lichen? Will it remove lichen?

I guess not

[chris scott]

Your product is 15%  the most popular "pro"  products are 40%/50% . Your product will provide excellent results ,as generally  anything containing Quats is ideal for this sort of application.
Mike it will kill lichen within about 3/4 minutes of application….the decay of the residue (what is visible) to the customer will take a while.
"Light green growth " on say fence panels,garden furniture,green house etc will disappear whithin 24hours. Quats can be used in and around the home generally very safely ( common sense applied) it is a very strong antiseptic and mold and fungus killer.
It is bio -degradable and is rendered harmless in 10/12 hours and has no environmental footprint , At these sorts of concentrations it is also "approved" by DEFRA to "go down the drain or sink" (again common sense prevails). It carries the "dead fish " label in concentrated form (as does most things) so care should be applied to it's handling and use.

[John Kelly]

Yes the Pro products are 40% but their standard products are only 10% and still a lot more expensive than ours.

[Great Outdoors]

It carries the "dead fish " label in concentrated form (as does most things) so care should be applied to it's handling and use.

That is slightly misleading Chris as these products quats are 'highly toxic' to aquatic life forms.
First I have seen defra quote, as again they should not be allowed to enter storm drains etc

[chris scott]

It carries the "dead fish " label in concentrated form (as does most things) so care should be applied to it's handling and use.

[Great Outdoors]

It carries the "dead fish " label in concentrated form (as does most things) so care should be applied to it's handling and use.

we all know what hypo is like, does that carry the 'dangerous to the environment label' 

[BDCS]

Bricks don't carry any label but it don't mean you can throw them at lorrys from motorway bridges. Chemspec 429 is food safe but would you drink it ? Coke has a good quantity of phosphoric acid in it but we drink it - some do anyway. Its all in dilution rates but you can get fined if anything you put into foul drainage out side of perscribed PH perameters.

Its not just about labels 

[chris scott]

Yes it does ..and the corrosive label
Skin Corr. 1B H314: Causes severe skin burns and eye damage. Aquatic Acute 1 H400: Very toxic to aquatic life.
Contact with acids liberates toxic gas. (>= 5%) EUH031
And we do drink that …it's added to all tap water.That goes into your "storm drain"!
PPM is whats important. There will be an acceptable level of contamination …after that you getting your arse felt.
1 ppm = 0.0001 % 
40 % Quats at 2% is 2000ppm

[Great Outdoors]

Bricks don't carry any label but it don't mean you can throw them at lorrys from motorway bridges.

Another great analogy    other roof cleaning comps claim quats to be enviro friendly which its not, hence ficking label 

[chris scott]

Environmentally friendly does not exist…

[Great Outdoors]

Environmentally friendly does not exist…

yer

Done a few roofs for greenies just washed with recycling with no fungicide rinse, would mKe nice case study 

[BDCS]

Environmentally friendly does not exist…

I keep bees to offset my petrol head addiction - does that count as friendly ?

[chris scott]

Environmentally friendly does not exist…

yer

Done a few roofs for greenies just washed with recycling with no fungicide rinse, would mKe nice case study 

Did you you use any hydrocarbons during the process?….you are choking the planet running the Renault/nissan/vauxhall and the Loncin/honda/yanmar.
Petrol, diesel fuel and fuel oil are hydrocarbons. Their molecules are made of carbon and hydrogen atoms. When these fuels burn, the carbon and hydrogen atoms combine with oxygen atoms to produce carbon dioxide and water vapour. These are poisoning the planet.
Your process in no more greener than me with my "dangerous " chemicals.
How did you send the invoice? Was it on paper?
Trees are Enviromentally friendly …unless burnt.

[Great Outdoors]

Environmentally friendly does not exist…

yer

Done a few roofs for greenies just washed with recycling with no fungicide rinse, would mKe nice case study 

Did you you use any hydrocarbons during the process?….you are choking the planet running the Renault/nissan/vauxhall and the Loncin/honda/yanmar.
Petrol, diesel fuel and fuel oil are hydrocarbons. Their molecules are made of carbon and hydrogen atoms. When these fuels burn, the carbon and hydrogen atoms combine with oxygen atoms to produce carbon dioxide and water vapour. These are poisoning the planet.
Your process in no more greener than me with my "dangerous " chemicals.
How did you send the invoice? Was it on paper?
Trees are Enviromentally friendly …unless burnt.

you have far too much free time ... Get ta work

[serj shergill]

Dear Mr B, just to advise you I am still learning the trade, as this is a part time occupation.  I spend most of mytime working abroad and do the odd cleaning job. I must be doing something right,  as I started of in a trailer and managed to upgrade to a van set up in a 4yr old merc van within a yr  my customers include audi uk , both villa and bcfc players, I also import industrial cleaning equipment. So as you would say a jack of all trades and a master of non oh did I mention that I am on the first page of google.

sorry for the sarcasm,  it had be used to knock certain individuals.
A big thank you for those who have shared your wisdom with this novice, especially chris! !! Hope all is well with the reel?

Finally I am fortunate enough to not to rely on this as my main source of income so I actually enjoy waking up on my days off and getting dirty.