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PoleKing

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2015, 08:06:54 pm »
This is why i like GoCardLess.
A record of every payment ever made.
I if could get all my customers on it i'd be a happy man.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.



paulben

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2015, 06:55:22 am »
look on the bright side if everyone asked for receipt it might get rid of the dole boy's but I wouldn't want everyone know where I live its like saying my house is empty every day 8 til 2 .
Do not steal the government hates competition

Positivity

  • Posts: 571
Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2015, 07:47:59 am »
Brilliant talk about Foot in Mouth and those who live in glass houses!! ;D ;D

Ronnie Bryce

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2015, 08:46:02 am »
It's been confirmed by the firm that he always pays by cheque in the post. That is a receipt.

Spruce

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Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Pete Thompson

  • Posts: 960
Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2015, 10:44:39 am »
It's been confirmed by the firm that he always pays by cheque in the post. That is a receipt.

A cheque is not a receipt.

Ronnie Bryce

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2015, 01:34:13 pm »
It's been confirmed by the firm that he always pays by cheque in the post. That is a receipt.

A cheque is not a receipt.


http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/acts/cheques-act

No need to thank me.

Pete Thompson

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2015, 02:12:33 pm »
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No need to thank me.

Good because no thanks are due.

A cheque, by definition, is:
"An order to a bank to pay a stated sum from the drawer’s account, written on a specially printed form"
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/cheque

A receipt, by definition, is:
"A written or printed statement acknowledging that something has been paid for or that goods have been received."
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/receipt

I say again.  A cheque is not a receipt.

You might say (and I think that is what you were trying to get at with that link) that a cheque may, in some circumstances provide a similar function as a receipt, and that's all well and good. 

But it does not make a cheque a receipt, because it isn't.

No need to thank me either.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2015, 02:38:04 pm »
My Lords, in general, the recipient of a payment is under no obligation to give a receipt if none is demanded, but he must give a stamped receipt for a payment of £2 or more if the payer asks for it. This has always been the position and nothing in the Cheques Act has altered it. But that Act contains a provision to the effect that an unendorsed cheque which appears to have been paid by the banker on whom it is drawn is evidence of the receipt of the sum payable. This, again, has always been the position so far as endorsed cheques are concerned, but the Act now makes it clear that the same thing applies to unendorsed cheques. As your Lordships are aware, the Cheques Act was based on the Report of the Mocatta Committee, and that Report drew attention to the fact that a paid endorsed cheque is as good evidence of payment as is a simple receipt.

From http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1957/dec/10/cheques-act-and-receipts#S5LV0206P0_19571210_HOL_5

Vin


Pete Thompson

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2015, 04:03:41 pm »
This is from your own quote:
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a paid endorsed cheque is as good evidence of payment as is a simple receipt.

You said that a cheque IS a receipt.

I said, it is not a receipt, but may in some circumstances, provide a similar function as a receipt.

For example it may be used 'as good evidence of payment' but that still does not mean that a cheque IS a receipt.

Which one of our statements is backed up by that quote from the Lords debate? Mine or yours?
Note the phrase in the quote "as good as".  Not "IS"

Perfect Windows

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2015, 05:27:30 pm »
This is from your own quote:
Quote
a paid endorsed cheque is as good evidence of payment as is a simple receipt.

You said that a cheque IS a receipt.

I said, it is not a receipt, but may in some circumstances, provide a similar function as a receipt.

For example it may be used 'as good evidence of payment' but that still does not mean that a cheque IS a receipt.

Which one of our statements is backed up by that quote from the Lords debate? Mine or yours?
Note the phrase in the quote "as good as".  Not "IS"


FFS!

You're correct.  Absolutely.  Totally.  Completely.

Vin

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2015, 05:31:34 pm »
A cheque is a cheque and a receipt is a receipt. It's besides the point anyway, Ed Balls said you should get a receipt for cash payments. A cheque isn't a cash payment.

Pete Thompson

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2015, 05:46:37 pm »
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FFS!

You're correct.  Absolutely.  Totally.  Completely.

Vin

Today is a historic day.

Hundreds thought it was impossible.
Thousands considered it improbable
Millions discounted it as incredible.

And yet the evidence is here before us...

Today I have won an argument on the internet.

I still feel strangely empty though.

tlwcs

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2015, 05:58:51 pm »
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FFS!

You're correct.  Absolutely.  Totally.  Completely.

Vin

Today is a historic day.

Hundreds thought it was impossible.
Thousands considered it improbable
Millions discounted it as incredible.

And yet the evidence is here before us...

Today I have won an argument on the internet.

I still feel strangely empty though.

No you didn't
Vin let you win
 ;D

Lakes and Pennine

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2015, 06:54:17 pm »
so mr balls is flouting the working at heights regulstions as well

PoleKing

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hasti

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Re: Ed's out to get us!!
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2015, 07:40:37 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2956365/I-ve-cleaned-Ed-Balls-s-windows-17-years-s-never-asked-receipt-Shadow-Chancellor-accused-total-hypocrisy-following-claims.html

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Guess he's losing a 17 year customer  ;D More than made up for with nation wide publicity.

uuuuuuhhhhh but wait a minuet  would you believe a window cleaner of Edy boy  ;D ;D ;D ;D
This Edy boy is full of Sugar, never liked his look, he looks a bit shifty to me  ;D