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richywilts

  • Posts: 4261
legal help please
« on: February 06, 2015, 05:28:41 pm »
the person who ran the business whilst i was away as a limited company in his name etc with different bank account has recieved over a £1000 of payments from my customers by mistake instead of paying into my account

he hasnt returned the money this is ongoing and he uncooperative

what position am i in here can i go th legal route and make a claim in the court for a summons or is this matter between him and my customers

Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

dave0123

  • Posts: 3553
Re: legal help please
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 05:39:08 pm »
Dont think you have a leg to stand on if he was a director
Dave.


Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: legal help please
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 05:46:48 pm »
its obviously someone you know if you gave them the reigns, cant you go round and talk to them??
when life throws you water, clean windows

Mick Kent

  • Posts: 1380
Re: legal help please
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 06:09:43 pm »
Id lay him out and keep doing it untill he pays otherwise It has cost you a grand to find out that he is a piece of scum that you can never trust again.

Smudger

  • Posts: 13439
Re: legal help please
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 06:14:00 pm »
Richy, this matter is not for a window cleaning forum, no one can give you the correct answer as we don't have the facts or legal qualifications.

Just go and see a solicitor


Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Paul H

  • Posts: 878
Re: legal help please
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2015, 06:33:45 pm »
Richy

Without knowing the full facts it's difficult

However if he's received them ..knows they aren't meant for him , and fails to repay them ...there is a criminal offence called " retaining a wrongful credit" or something similar .. That said I'd consider the police or I form him of that ..it may do the trick

richywilts

  • Posts: 4261
Re: legal help please
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2015, 06:53:09 pm »
The facts are since I've taken over as a separate limited company with new bank account details which I've have to customers and have highlighted on every invoice some have just mistaking my paid into HIS old account by mistake which he is aware of, I have looked into it and it's part of theft act not returning money not due to him.

What I'm unsure of tho is this a case between me and him or him and the customers

It's quite clear what's gone on if it got to court etc and have lots of customers who can provide evidence
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: legal help please
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2015, 07:17:36 pm »
In reality it sounds like your customers have paid him by mistake. Their mistake?

Realistically I'd say they have a beef with him and you have a beef with them. In reality, it's going to pan out as between you and him and you're going to be out of pocket.

Live and learn, make sure they don't do it again. Insist they know the correct account details and don't accept it from them again or then it's their fault.

Kiss the money goodbye, realistically it's gone.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: legal help please
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2015, 07:19:40 pm »
They may be able to testify they've paid the scally but they're not going to want to lose half a day's pay to testify over 20 missing quid. They'll br non customers if you ask them to.

Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

Bart Olin

  • Posts: 38
Re: legal help please
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 07:26:27 pm »
work harder to make it up.  or up your prices by a quid that pay it easy
bartmyarse

richywilts

  • Posts: 4261
Re: legal help please
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 07:41:19 pm »
It's more principle than actually needing. The money, we have him a grand to say thanks when he was demanding 2 grand off is to give it back when he told me there was 800 customers etc I got it back worked thru it all and only had 490 so we gave him s grand not 2 this was never part of any deal he just thru it on us
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Bart Olin

  • Posts: 38
Re: legal help please
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 07:57:07 pm »
you might be able to get it back using greed .     set a cunning trap to lure him in .

  yrs ago a man owed me a 100 .  i knew he liked 4 x 4 so  i got  a friend who had one to  let me borrow it .  i rang the guy up and said , hey iv this 4 x 4 ,dirt cheap.wanna look ?
   he was over like a shot, loved it!
     i then said, mmm by the way,that 100 you owe me -   he gives me it straight away .    then i tell him the 4 x 4 is nothin to do wi me
bartmyarse

tonycarr

  • Posts: 424
Re: legal help please
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 09:08:14 pm »
could go to citizens advice, see what the options are?

tony
T & J Window Cleaning services

dannymack

  • Posts: 1624
Re: legal help please
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2015, 09:14:58 pm »
All I can say for advice Richy Boy is

JUDGE RINDER !!!!!lol!!!!!!

davids3511

  • Posts: 2506
Re: legal help please
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2015, 09:23:26 pm »
Surely your old chums from which ever hmp you were in would have some interesting debt collection techniques?

Window Lickers

  • Posts: 2196
Re: legal help please
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2015, 10:06:40 pm »
Better Call Saul.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

richywilts

  • Posts: 4261
Re: legal help please
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2015, 10:23:06 pm »
Surely your old chums from which ever hmp you were in would have some interesting debt collection techniques?

id quite happily do it myself but on licence for another 15 months so id be straight back inside
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20800
Re: legal help please
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2015, 06:02:30 am »
Surely your old chums from which ever hmp you were in would have some interesting debt collection techniques?

id quite happily do it myself but on licence for another 15 months so id be straight back inside

Sounds to me like he's got you by the balls.
#aliens

CleanClear

  • Posts: 14745
Re: legal help please
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2015, 01:15:55 am »
the person who ran the business whilst i was away as a limited company in his name etc with different bank account has recieved over a £1000 of payments from my customers by mistake instead of paying into my account

he hasnt returned the money this is ongoing and he uncooperative

what position am i in here can i go th legal route and make a claim in the court for a summons or is this matter between him and my customers


This is really quite easy and straightforeward. The customers you have cleaned have paid him instead of you. For whatever reason they have failed to note your new bank account details.
 You write to him, recorded delivery and make a copy. You point out to him in writing what has happened and ask him to foreward you the money that has been mistakenly paid to him. If he ignores the letter, or you do not get a response. Then send him another one, about 14 days later, again recorded delivery and ask him to return the money that has mistakenly been paid into his account. Give hi 14 days to respond, failing which you will take legal action to recover the money. You should also , in preperation for any possible Court action and of course to detail exactly to him what you want, list the payments you believe have been paid to him. If he doesn't pay up and offers no expkanation of why he is not paying then fire off a Small Claims Summons, detailing what you want and why.
MCOL, MOney Claims Online.  https://www.gov.uk/make-money-claim-online

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/northampton-business-centre/money-claim-online/frequently-asked-questions

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