[Jonny 87]

think you meant ladder   not leader. oh wow, go you awesome.

That moment when you realise your points aren't logical and the only thing you do is pick up a spelling mistake. Haha.

On that note...............

I'm out.

[Jonny 87]

anyway im off to the real world now for my dinner with my wife n kids, have a good day tomorrow typing in electric gate keycodes while im cleaning 4 lowly £10 houses an hour,  all day, poor me boo hoo so skint

Don't work Saturdays. I earn enough with WFP during the week thanks.

You have fun though. 

[Joey Eastwood]

Why do you want to go up a ladder lol it's not a bugger your body up challenge,you can't deny its a far better way to earn far more money with enough energy left to enjoy the weekends. I'm a way my opinion is that staying traditional in a way is being lazy and not moving with the times

seriously mate if your gonna comment read the whole thread, me and jakey both stated reasons etc 7 pages ago, why get involved at the end of a conversation with spurious arguments

[Joey Eastwood]

 

anyway im off to the real world now for my dinner with my wife n kids, have a good day tomorrow typing in electric gate keycodes while im cleaning 4 lowly £10 houses an hour,  all day, poor me boo hoo so skint

Don't work Saturdays. I earn enough with WFP during the week thanks.

You have fun though. 

haha you got me there i forgot its friday seriously mate, have your opinion but as i stated pages ago im happy as i am, earn enough money and dont want to change, end of, take it easy

[Jonny 87]

anyway im off to the real world now for my dinner with my wife n kids, have a good day tomorrow typing in electric gate keycodes while im cleaning 4 lowly £10 houses an hour,  all day, poor me boo hoo so skint

Don't work Saturdays. I earn enough with WFP during the week thanks.

You have fun though. 

haha you got me there i forgot its friday seriously mate, have your opinion but as i stated pages ago im happy as i am, earn enough money and dont want to change, end of, take it easy

And that's all that matters. 

Each to their own.

[Clever Forum Name]

anyway im off to the real world now for my dinner with my wife n kids, have a good day tomorrow typing in electric gate keycodes while im cleaning 4 lowly £10 houses an hour,  all day, poor me boo hoo so skint

Don't work Saturdays. I earn enough with WFP during the week thanks.

You have fun though. 

 

[NWH]

Ok thanks be careful up those there ladders as they say one slip and your in the S😷😷T

[NWH]

anyway im off to the real world now for my dinner with my wife n kids, have a good day tomorrow typing in electric gate keycodes while im cleaning 4 lowly £10 houses an hour,  all day, poor me boo hoo so skint

Yep you can't polish a reed and all that lol

Don't work Saturdays. I earn enough with WFP during the week thanks.

You have fun though. 

haha you got me there i forgot its friday seriously mate, have your opinion but as i stated pages ago im happy as i am, earn enough money and dont want to change, end of, take it easy

And that's all that matters. 

Each to their own.

[Window Lickers]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

I rinse on about 98 from shurflo....with fan jets

This bloke knows what he's talking about.


If you can't rinse fast you've still something to learn. It's quite simple but you've not learnt it all yet if you think rinsing on a half setting is going to earn you decent money.

[Jakey boy]

I have reverted back to trad after investing in wfp, too much hastle, hoses, batteries, poles, van moving, rinsing, converting customers, freezing conditions, leaks, extra cost!
Wfp has a place, I use it for about 5 percent of my work(got a backpack) some awkward leadeds, three storey and dormer windows.

Exactly.

[Jakey boy]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

I rinse on about 98 from shurflo....with fan jets

This bloke knows what he's talking about.


If you can't rinse fast you've still something to learn. It's quite simple but you've not learnt it all yet if you think rinsing on a half setting is going to earn you decent money.

You can rinse like mad but some windows just takes forever compared to trad.

I know this first hand. Wfp is great, trad is just better for some houses, there are times when dragging the hose around and through garages etc is defiantly slower than tradding. It's just a matter of fact. Trad can be faster than wfp on some houses. That's what I said in the original post.

Other benfits with trad are:

Can do Insides
Can hop over gates and fences easily
Can go over garage roofs
Can charge more if other window cleaners won't use trad
Can do first Cleans in half the time of wfp
Can get stains off in seconds on upstairs windows.
Next to zero outlay
Next to zero tool maintenance
Next to zero space in van taken up
No leaks
No freezing
No money to be spent on batteries pumps poles bla bla bla.

The list is endless, there are many many perks to trad.

There are also many perks to wfp, hence why I use it! / Just not for every house. Simple.

[jimiwindows]

 Try wfp this lot.

[8weekly]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

I rinse on about 98 from shurflo....with fan jets

This bloke knows what he's talking about.


If you can't rinse fast you've still something to learn. It's quite simple but you've not learnt it all yet if you think rinsing on a half setting is going to earn you decent money.

You can rinse like mad but some windows just takes forever compared to trad.

I know this first hand. Wfp is great, trad is just better for some houses, there are times when dragging the hose around and through garages etc is defiantly slower than tradding. It's just a matter of fact. Trad can be faster than wfp on some houses. That's what I said in the original post.

Other benfits with trad are:

Can do Insides
Can hop over gates and fences easily
Can go over garage roofs
Can charge more if other window cleaners won't use trad
Can do first Cleans in half the time of wfp
Can get stains off in seconds on upstairs windows.
Next to zero outlay
Next to zero tool maintenance
Next to zero space in van taken up
No leaks
No freezing
No money to be spent on batteries pumps poles bla bla bla.

The list is endless, there are many many perks to trad.

There are also many perks to wfp, hence why I use it! / Just not for every house. Simple.

You missed off getting to slouch in a hoodie. 

[Tom-01]

You can get more done in a day using WFP than trad

[NWH]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

I rinse on about 98 from shurflo....with fan jets

This bloke knows what he's talking about.


If you can't rinse fast you've still something to learn. It's quite simple but you've not learnt it all yet if you think rinsing on a half setting is going to earn you decent money.

You can rinse like mad but some windows just takes forever compared to trad.

I know this first hand. Wfp is great, trad is just better for some houses, there are times when dragging the hose around and through garages etc is defiantly slower than tradding. It's just a matter of fact. Trad can be faster than wfp on some houses. That's what I said in the original post.

Other benfits with trad are:

Can do Insides
Can hop over gates and fences easily
Can go over garage roofs
Can charge more if other window cleaners won't use trad
Can do first Cleans in half the time of wfp
Can get stains off in seconds on upstairs windows.
Next to zero outlay
Next to zero tool maintenance
Next to zero space in van taken up
No leaks
No freezing
No money to be spent on batteries pumps poles bla bla bla.

The list is endless, there are many many perks to trad.

There are also many perks to wfp, hence why I use it! / Just not for every house. Simple.

you forgot to mention the mundane freezing cold hands freezing cold ladders being on 6-7 bed houses upwards forever in a day feeling completely knackered come Wednesday,and that's without earning about a 1/3 less money than you can earn walking around a job pushing a pole up and down thinking God this is a piece of p. I think I might start doing it off of ladders again I must be an idiot.

[Joey Eastwood]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

I rinse on about 98 from shurflo....with fan jets

This bloke knows what he's talking about.


If you can't rinse fast you've still something to learn. It's quite simple but you've not learnt it all yet if you think rinsing on a half setting is going to earn you decent money.

You can rinse like mad but some windows just takes forever compared to trad.

I know this first hand. Wfp is great, trad is just better for some houses, there are times when dragging the hose around and through garages etc is defiantly slower than tradding. It's just a matter of fact. Trad can be faster than wfp on some houses. That's what I said in the original post.

Other benfits with trad are:

Can do Insides
Can hop over gates and fences easily
Can go over garage roofs
Can charge more if other window cleaners won't use trad
Can do first Cleans in half the time of wfp
Can get stains off in seconds on upstairs windows.
Next to zero outlay
Next to zero tool maintenance
Next to zero space in van taken up
No leaks
No freezing
No money to be spent on batteries pumps poles bla bla bla.

The list is endless, there are many many perks to trad.

There are also many perks to wfp, hence why I use it! / Just not for every house. Simple.

i dont know how many times we have to say the same thing lol. people just cant see that there is more than one way to do somethin and when you explain they just jump down your throat with why their way is better lol.

and NWH make sure you dont slip and your pole ends up your a55, mind you it wouldnt fit because your head is so far up there already.  bummers post-office boyfriend i think

[Joey Eastwood]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

I rinse on about 98 from shurflo....with fan jets

This bloke knows what he's talking about.


If you can't rinse fast you've still something to learn. It's quite simple but you've not learnt it all yet if you think rinsing on a half setting is going to earn you decent money.

You can rinse like mad but some windows just takes forever compared to trad.

I know this first hand. Wfp is great, trad is just better for some houses, there are times when dragging the hose around and through garages etc is defiantly slower than tradding. It's just a matter of fact. Trad can be faster than wfp on some houses. That's what I said in the original post.

Other benfits with trad are:

Can do Insides
Can hop over gates and fences easily
Can go over garage roofs
Can charge more if other window cleaners won't use trad
Can do first Cleans in half the time of wfp
Can get stains off in seconds on upstairs windows.
Next to zero outlay
Next to zero tool maintenance
Next to zero space in van taken up
No leaks
No freezing
No money to be spent on batteries pumps poles bla bla bla.

The list is endless, there are many many perks to trad.

There are also many perks to wfp, hence why I use it! / Just not for every house. Simple.

you forgot to mention the mundane freezing cold hands freezing cold ladders being on 6-7 bed houses upwards forever in a day feeling completely knackered come Wednesday,and that's without earning about a 1/3 less money than you can earn walking around a job pushing a pole up and down thinking God this is a piece of p. I think I might start doing it off of ladders again I must be an idiot.

a third as much???  lmao your not a window cleaner your a comedian. do you think just because we use a different method to you that we earn  minimum wage or something LOL.  you where a bit annoying now your just a plain idiot the way you are going on, its like you have to defend your way of cleaning, perhaps its you who doesnt earn enouh you sound pretty insecure, its me and jakey that are happy 

[Tom White]

Joey (any relation to Joey Deacon?), it's a bit like me arguing that cleaning windows with a spade is quicker than using a squeegy.  I might keep on repeating myself, but anyone with a brain will know that I'm wrong.

Now apply that thinking to what you're saying.

[Jonny 87]

Joey (any relation to Joey Deacon?), it's a bit like me arguing that cleaning windows with a spade is quicker than using a squeegy.  I might keep on repeating myself, but anyone with a brain will know that I'm wrong.

Now apply that thinking to what you're saying.

 

[Joey Eastwood]

Joey (any relation to Joey Deacon?), it's a bit like me arguing that cleaning windows with a spade is quicker than using a squeegy.  I might keep on repeating myself, but anyone with a brain will know that I'm wrong.

Now apply that thinking to what you're saying.

seriously tosh what are you on about. have you read any of this post? i havent said  that trad is quicker, that isnt the point, the point is i am trad and happy, the  name of the post states 'some' houses are quicker and they probably are, the majority are probably quicker wfp

for the 'global  moderator' mocking the disabled isnt great. read what i have been saying and try understsnd my point. you have seen a few guys getting all defensive over their wfp for some reason and jumped on the bandwagon