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birdymiller

  • Posts: 682
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #220 on: February 06, 2015, 06:20:35 pm »
I have reverted back to trad after investing in wfp, too much hastle, hoses, batteries, poles, van moving, rinsing, converting customers, freezing conditions, leaks, extra cost!
Wfp has a place, I use it for about 5 percent of my work(got a backpack) some awkward leadeds, three storey and dormer windows.

8weekly

Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #221 on: February 06, 2015, 06:21:06 pm »
Traditional v WFP cannot not be compared  because there's no comparison I had this conversation with a tradder yesterday he was almost trying to convince himself it's quicker to climb ladders alday everyday all week the fool,bungalows maybe on occasions but that's about it unless there dolls houses.I don't ever bother to put up an argument with some I see from time to time now I just give em a toot on my way home 3 hours before them lol

same here mate!i know quite a few trad only guys!and their always still working when im driving home! ;D

Maybe trad guys got more work than wfp guys!
you are limited massively working trad only what's the point in having masses of work with ladders your never gonna get through it all and just think of all Those dormers, skylights ,and 3 rd floor windows  I'm gonna have to do coz you can't reach em lol

again we covered this 5 pages ago DO KEEP UP. what about the big houses i do with no rear acces apart fro  over the garage etc etc etc 5pages ago mate
This comment sums it all up. Big houses don't have "no rear access".  ;D

NWH

  • Posts: 16952
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #222 on: February 06, 2015, 06:22:14 pm »
So sorry mate houses with gates round the side of the house ohh no moved on from them a few years back now pal, got a long list of electric gate codes though. Please get some half decent work can't you coming on here like a peasant lol 😴😴😆😆

gary999

  • Posts: 8156
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #223 on: February 06, 2015, 06:23:02 pm »
Yep Birdymiller you are a rare convert back to trad on this forum.

Knew that would happen ;D

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #224 on: February 06, 2015, 06:23:22 pm »
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So sorry mate houses with gates round the side of the house ohh no moved on from them a few years back now pal, got a long list of electric gate codes though. Please get some half decent work can't you coming on here like a peasant lol 😴😴😆😆

oh wow, go you... typical ciu arsehole mate
when life throws you water, clean windows

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #225 on: February 06, 2015, 06:24:45 pm »
Traditional v WFP cannot not be compared  because there's no comparison I had this conversation with a tradder yesterday he was almost trying to convince himself it's quicker to climb ladders alday everyday all week the fool,bungalows maybe on occasions but that's about it unless there dolls houses.I don't ever bother to put up an argument with some I see from time to time now I just give em a toot on my way home 3 hours before them lol

same here mate!i know quite a few trad only guys!and their always still working when im driving home! ;D

Maybe trad guys got more work than wfp guys!
you are limited massively working trad only what's the point in having masses of work with ladders your never gonna get through it all and just think of all Those dormers, skylights ,and 3 rd floor windows  I'm gonna have to do coz you can't reach em lol

again we covered this 5 pages ago DO KEEP UP. what about the big houses i do with no rear acces apart fro  over the garage etc etc etc 5pages ago mate

Big houses? With no rear access?

I think me and you have a different ideas on big houses, what your describing is an average house. 3 bed semi.

A big house to me is 5 or 6 bedroom, detached with double garages.

Mayb I'm just lucky to have a round of decent size houses, and WFP is so much faster on all my work.

If you have a round made up of council houses then trad may be on a par with WFP speed wise in some cases, but never on a par with quality and more importantly safety.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #226 on: February 06, 2015, 06:25:43 pm »
im a peasant because i do two £10 houses in the time you do a £20 house,  haha
if you do that many mansions and your so rich why come on a computer forum and spout about it? isnt it caviar oclock? have you met hummer, hes a bell end too
when life throws you water, clean windows

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #227 on: February 06, 2015, 06:27:37 pm »
im a peasant because i do two £10 houses in the time you do a £20 house,  haha
if you do that many mansions and your so rich why come on a computer forum and spout about it? isnt it caviar oclock? have you met hummer, hes a bell end too

If your saying you have to work twice as hard as me for the same money, then your probably right. :)
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

NWH

  • Posts: 16952
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #228 on: February 06, 2015, 06:27:42 pm »
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So sorry mate houses with gates round the side of the house ohh no moved on from them a few years back now pal, got a long list of electric gate codes though. Please get some half decent work can't you coming on here like a peasant lol 😴😴😆😆

oh wow, go you... typical ciu arsehole mate
How dare you I can earn a 100 a day window cleaning lol lol 😂😂😂

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #229 on: February 06, 2015, 06:29:58 pm »
Traditional v WFP cannot not be compared  because there's no comparison I had this conversation with a tradder yesterday he was almost trying to convince himself it's quicker to climb ladders alday everyday all week the fool,bungalows maybe on occasions but that's about it unless there dolls houses.I don't ever bother to put up an argument with some I see from time to time now I just give em a toot on my way home 3 hours before them lol

same here mate!i know quite a few trad only guys!and their always still working when im driving home! ;D

Maybe trad guys got more work than wfp guys!
you are limited massively working trad only what's the point in having masses of work with ladders your never gonna get through it all and just think of all Those dormers, skylights ,and 3 rd floor windows  I'm gonna have to do coz you can't reach em lol

again we covered this 5 pages ago DO KEEP UP. what about the big houses i do with no rear acces apart fro  over the garage etc etc etc 5pages ago mate

Big houses? With no rear access?

I think me and you have a different ideas on big houses, what your describing is an average house. 3 bed semi.

A big house to me is 5 or 6 bedroom, detached with double garages.

Mayb I'm just lucky to have a round of decent size houses, and WFP is so much faster on all my work.

If you have a round made up of council houses then trad may be on a par with WFP speed wise in sim cases, but never on a par with quality and more importantly safety.

i do my share of big gaffs dont get me wrong, im talking about 3bed semis £10 a clean, have to go over the garage, i was making a point that yes trad can be limiting but so can wfp, jeeeesus........ and the reply was he does bigger houses, well yes but probably take you longer to clean them... this forum is a joke at times you cant have an opinion without someone trying to rubbish it or say thats nothing i do ten times that blah blahh

yeah you may but your an idiot,,, lol
when life throws you water, clean windows

Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #230 on: February 06, 2015, 06:30:15 pm »
Traditional v WFP cannot not be compared  because there's no comparison I had this conversation with a tradder yesterday he was almost trying to convince himself it's quicker to climb ladders alday everyday all week the fool,bungalows maybe on occasions but that's about it unless there dolls houses.I don't ever bother to put up an argument with some I see from time to time now I just give em a toot on my way home 3 hours before them lol

same here mate!i know quite a few trad only guys!and their always still working when im driving home! ;D

thats nothing to do with them thsts because your a lazy c#£% haha ;) hummer your a sad person, i bet you where bullied at school and have a small thingy so cant satisfy your wife so you come on here to try act the big man. your probably not even a window cleaner i bet your a sad old post office assistant, the sort of guy who ends up being a serial killer for a bit of attenntion. im not entertaing your half witted attempt at humor or feeble attempts to make yourself look better than other people,  we should meet up some time, no in all seriousness its been a while since iv wobbled anyones head about for being a complete nonce

all in good fun admin i mean literally hold his head and wobble it no threats here


 ;D ;D

Haha, and finally I have you dangling exactly where I want you  ;D

The minute a, er, member of the intelligentsia such as yourself starts crying and making threats, you show yourself for what you are.

A m0ng  ;D

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #231 on: February 06, 2015, 06:31:51 pm »
im a peasant because i do two £10 houses in the time you do a £20 house,  haha
if you do that many mansions and your so rich why come on a computer forum and spout about it? isnt it caviar oclock? have you met hummer, hes a bell end too

If your saying you have to work twice as hard as me for the same money, then your probably right. :)

wow this is hard work, you are  missing the point...... one £20 house = two £10 houses, capishe???

the 20 house takes you half hour, two 10 houses me 15 each, u with me..... just wow
when life throws you water, clean windows

NWH

  • Posts: 16952
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #232 on: February 06, 2015, 06:32:16 pm »
im a peasant because i do two £10 houses in the time you do a £20 house,  haha
if you do that many mansions and your so rich why come on a computer forum and spout about it? isnt it caviar oclock? have you met hummer, hes a bell end too
I'm just on here reading what your doing to make myself feel better mate boosting my ego,I don't do any £10 houses anymore,wheat and chaff comes to mind pal not anymore I will leave all them for you,you go for it

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #233 on: February 06, 2015, 06:33:15 pm »
hummer hard at work. wibble
when life throws you water, clean windows

dazmond

  • Posts: 23988
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #234 on: February 06, 2015, 06:33:58 pm »
I have reverted back to trad after investing in wfp, too much hastle, hoses, batteries, poles, van moving, rinsing, converting customers, freezing conditions, leaks, extra cost!
Wfp has a place, I use it for about 5 percent of my work(got a backpack) some awkward leadeds, three storey and dormer windows.

fair play mate but i bet your not earning £17,000 more a year since going wfp 4 and a half years ago.it should be over £20,000 more by the end of this year for me.i spent 17 years 100% trad before that.

even taking in the extra expense(prob works out at about 3k a year more than when i was trad)im still quids in.

i enjoy my work a lot more

ive picked up some cracking jobs that id never be able to do off ladders.

i work less hours a day compared to ladders.

i earn more a day

im a lot safer.

less tired at the end of the day/week.

ive picked up a lot of good jobs BECAUSE I USE WFP!
price higher/work harder!

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #235 on: February 06, 2015, 06:34:30 pm »
im a peasant because i do two £10 houses in the time you do a £20 house,  haha
if you do that many mansions and your so rich why come on a computer forum and spout about it? isnt it caviar oclock? have you met hummer, hes a bell end too
I'm just on here reading what your doing to make myself feel better mate boosting my ego,I don't do any £10 houses anymore,wheat and chaff comes to mind pal not anymore I will leave all them for you,you go for it

oh wow go you. you do a 20 house in the time i do 2 10 houses, ur aweeesomeeeee
when life throws you water, clean windows

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #236 on: February 06, 2015, 06:34:43 pm »
Traditional v WFP cannot not be compared  because there's no comparison I had this conversation with a tradder yesterday he was almost trying to convince himself it's quicker to climb ladders alday everyday all week the fool,bungalows maybe on occasions but that's about it unless there dolls houses.I don't ever bother to put up an argument with some I see from time to time now I just give em a toot on my way home 3 hours before them lol

same here mate!i know quite a few trad only guys!and their always still working when im driving home! ;D

Maybe trad guys got more work than wfp guys!
you are limited massively working trad only what's the point in having masses of work with ladders your never gonna get through it all and just think of all Those dormers, skylights ,and 3 rd floor windows  I'm gonna have to do coz you can't reach em lol

again we covered this 5 pages ago DO KEEP UP. what about the big houses i do with no rear acces apart fro  over the garage etc etc etc 5pages ago mate

Big houses? With no rear access?

I think me and you have a different ideas on big houses, what your describing is an average house. 3 bed semi.

A big house to me is 5 or 6 bedroom, detached with double garages.

Mayb I'm just lucky to have a round of decent size houses, and WFP is so much faster on all my work.

If you have a round made up of council houses then trad may be on a par with WFP speed wise in sim cases, but never on a par with quality and more importantly safety.

i do my share of big gaffs dont get me wrong, im talking about 3bed semis £10 a clean, have to go over the garage, i was making a point that yes trad can be limiting but so can wfp, jeeeesus........ and the reply was he does bigger houses, well yes but probably take you longer to clean them... this forum is a joke at times you cant have an opinion without someone trying to rubbish it or say thats nothing i do ten times that blah blahh

yeah you may but your an idiot,,, lol

It's interesting that you think having to climb over a garage makes WFP slower? When your trad do you just jump?

I've got a telescopic ladder that within seconds I can be up and over, along with my pole and hose and work away.

The only extra thing I have to do that You don't is carry my pole with me as I go up the ladder, but the time saved doing the actual window cleaning is still quicker than trad for me.

I know this because I used to be trad only.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #237 on: February 06, 2015, 06:36:57 pm »
think you meant ladder   not leader. oh wow, go you awesome.
when life throws you water, clean windows

NWH

  • Posts: 16952
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #238 on: February 06, 2015, 06:38:00 pm »
Why do you want to go up a ladder lol it's not a bugger your body up challenge,you can't deny its a far better way to earn far more money with enough energy left to enjoy the weekends. I'm a way my opinion is that staying traditional in a way is being lazy and not moving with the times

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #239 on: February 06, 2015, 06:39:32 pm »
anyway im off to the real world now for my dinner with my wife n kids, have a good day tomorrow typing in electric gate keycodes while im cleaning 4 lowly £10 houses an hour,  all day, poor me boo hoo so skint :(
when life throws you water, clean windows