[Tom White]

There's certainly advantages in being Trad and Wfp .

No, mate, this bloke who fell 10 feet from a ladder will explain to you why you're very wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ufXmHxoHuw

He paralysed himself - from just a 10 foot fall remember - from the waist down.  His wife left him, taking their two kids.  He spent five months in rehab, learning how to use a wheelchair, how to manage his bowels (he basically has to stick fingers into his bottom and pull the poo out) and other such life-adjustments.  

He went off the rails for a while and hit the booze.

Now he gives very powerful health and safety talks on the impact that falling 10 foot from a ladder has had on his life.

Now don't encourage people who mightn't be very bright to go chucking themselves around a house on ladders because they think they're quicker than some guy with a wfp.

Watch him; he should make anyone who works from a ladder think about how they work.

[LT carpet cleaning]

I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?

are you stupid. seriously have u read anything on this thread? i was called poor so defended myself...

There's nothing wrong with being poor, there's lots of schemes to help you out there? Or you could go into business with jakey, I hear there's plenty of call for rich, tax return brandishing, intelligent, window cleaning nice boys in certain parts of London?

Just trying to help.  

[LT carpet cleaning]

Everyone just work the way they want to .
Take advice and learn from others .
But persons should appreciate how persons work .

We're all different and have different needs and work methods

Yes, I agree, but that's not the discussion here.

But wfp is still faster for the vast majority of external window cleaning.

If someone isn't finding that is it, they're doing it wrong.

It's also easier too.

I think it the windows are particular dirty, especially the upstairs, then trad is quicker, today I did a new house which was filthy and disgusting. A bit like hummer. Anyway, there was no way wfp was going to be quicker, the brush would have been cakes in crap, and trad was by far the easier option. I could wipe the frames and then do the window quickly with a very good result, wfp would have left spotting due to how dirty it was around the frames etc. wfp could of worked but I know from expirence it would have taken longer,

I would love you race a wfp guy on certain houses and compare results!

Remember at the beginning I stated that I find trad quicker on 'some houses' not all.

Aww thanks for the mention. Sadly I don't swing your way. Terribly sorry. But keep thinking of me as dirty and disgusting. Bet you spend ages in the shower thinking about it.

 

Funnily how you instantly turn such comments into some sort of sexual reference? I'm not the one doing that, it's always you or Garry? You've both got some issue with taking about me in a sexual way, batty boys! Are you incapable of taking normally about window cleaning? Are you seeking help for that visit you took to Chernobyl? Because your brain is confused, and your sexuality is also very confused, you like to talk about men in a sexual way on a window cleaning forum? 

Get your head examined hummer, those brain cells are deteriorating fast.

Reading the quoted thread, it was you that brought up "sex" as you called Hummer "filthy and disgusting". I agree that he is irritating but you started the "pillow talk".   

Irritating? IRRATATING? How dare you! 

[Joey Eastwood]

Everyone just work the way they want to .
Take advice and learn from others .
But persons should appreciate how persons work .

We're all different and have different needs and work methods

Yes, I agree, but that's not the discussion here.

But wfp is still faster for the vast majority of external window cleaning.

If someone isn't finding that is it, they're doing it wrong.

It's also easier too.

I think it the windows are particular dirty, especially the upstairs, then trad is quicker, today I did a new house which was filthy and disgusting. A bit like hummer. Anyway, there was no way wfp was going to be quicker, the brush would have been cakes in crap, and trad was by far the easier option. I could wipe the frames and then do the window quickly with a very good result, wfp would have left spotting due to how dirty it was around the frames etc. wfp could of worked but I know from expirence it would have taken longer,

I would love you race a wfp guy on certain houses and compare results!

Remember at the beginning I stated that I find trad quicker on 'some houses' not all.

Aww thanks for the mention. Sadly I don't swing your way. Terribly sorry. But keep thinking of me as dirty and disgusting. Bet you spend ages in the shower thinking about it.

 

Funnily how you instantly turn such comments into some sort of sexual reference? I'm not the one doing that, it's always you or Garry? You've both got some issue with taking about me in a sexual way, batty boys! Are you incapable of taking normally about window cleaning? Are you seeking help for that visit you took to Chernobyl? Because your brain is confused, and your sexuality is also very confused, you like to talk about men in a sexual way on a window cleaning forum? 

Get your head examined hummer, those brain cells are deteriorating fast.

Reading the quoted thread, it was you that brought up "sex" as you called Hummer "filthy and disgusting". I agree that he is irritating but you started the "pillow talk".   

Irritating? IRRATATING? How dare you! 

how embarrasing, the guy whos bandwagon you just jumped on insulted you earlier behind your back. take the hint pal, by the way well done on your first post that isnt insulting or reffering to your obviously supressed homosexuality

[dazmond]

so BOAB are for girls now!

seriously you guys are a bit immature and eh....foolish........you ll learn in time.your just suffering from the arrogance of youth!!

i know as i was the same once!!

joey your customers WILL NOT leave you in droves when you go wfp.its a myth.i lost about 3 or 4 customers but ive picked up SHEDLOADS MORE better paying jobs in the last 4 years WFP.

your earnings will rise due to getting round your work easier and quicker.you ll pick up better paying jobs.even with the extra expense you ll still be quids in compared to tradding all your work after a few years.

[Joey Eastwood]

your missing the point dazmond, i dont need to earn  more i probably earn the same an hour as you do so money is not the issue, i dont need to change so i wont for now i dont want the extra hassle and expense, a lot of the houses i do are on closes where dragging a hose around the back would be UTTERLY ridiculous. i do a round of detached houses with flat roofs on the front, one ladder climb and i can do 4 top windows. i have a week of retirement bungalows, out of principle i wouldnt drag hoses around thier feet as they are a friendly bunch. it simply isnt a necessity to me, why doesnt any one get that?

[Jakey boy]

so BOAB are for girls now!

seriously you guys are a bit immature and eh....foolish........you ll learn in time.your just suffering from the arrogance of youth!!

i know as i was the same once!!

joey your customers WILL NOT leave you in droves when you go wfp.its a myth.i lost about 3 or 4 customers but ive picked up SHEDLOADS MORE better paying jobs in the last 4 years WFP.

your earnings will rise due to getting round your work easier and quicker.you ll pick up better paying jobs.even with the extra expense you ll still be quids in compared to tradding all your work after a few years.

Daz it's a joke my friend, keep with it 

[Joey Eastwood]

i have a round where im there 2 days and the vast majority of the houses have no rear access apart from thru the garage, i go over the garage and take my ladderd over. would be a nightmare with a pole agree? theres another 2 days of my work that would be a pain in the arse wfp

[Tom White]

it simply isnt a necessity to me, why doesnt any one get that?

Because most of us started off trad and then progressed to wfp.

We know - though experience, what's better.

And have a listen to this bloke, he was about your age when he paralysed himself falling off a ladder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ufXmHxoHuw

[Joey Eastwood]

the lad that works with me doesnt drive, and often hes in a different area to me 5miles away, do they do a 5mile hose and reel big enough so i can drop him off and get some peace n quiet on another round?

[Don Kee]

Thats my point mate...i wasnt having a pop at you for being trad!!

Fair play to you, you're good & happy at trad...i get that!!!
Good on you!

My point was, whats the point in turning it into a cock contest?!?!
You wouldn't carry on smashing your head against a brick wall (i hope) so why carry on now?!?!


You seem a sound lad (jakey come across as about 3years old though) and up for laugh, dont degrade yourself!!

[Jakey boy]

i have a round where im there 2 days and the vast majority of the houses have no rear access apart from thru the garage, i go over the garage and take my ladderd over. would be a nightmare with a pole agree? theres another 2 days of my work that would be a pain in the arse wfp

Yeah that's another advantage of trad, easy to hop over gates garages etc. plus much easier doing window on flat roofs.

[Tom White]

i have a round where im there 2 days and the vast majority of the houses have no rear access apart from thru the garage, i go over the garage and take my ladderd over. would be a nightmare with a pole agree? theres another 2 days of my work that would be a pain in the arse wfp

You just bin this kind of work and get bigger 'n' better stuff.

[Jakey boy]

it simply isnt a necessity to me, why doesnt any one get that?

Because most of us started off trad and then progressed to wfp.

We know - though experience, what's better.

And have a listen to this bloke, he was about your age when he paralysed himself falling off a ladder:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ufXmHxoHuw

tosh, yes there's danger but millions use ladders daily with no issues, if you take due care, you will be fine.

[Jakey boy]

Thats my point mate...i wasnt having a pop at you for being trad!!

Fair play to you, you're good & happy at trad...i get that!!!
Good on you!

My point was, whats the point in turning it into a cock contest?!?!
You wouldn't carry on smashing your head against a brick wall (i hope) so why carry on now?!?!


You seem a sound lad (jakey come across as about 3years old though) and up for laugh, dont degrade yourself!!

Based on what? More accurate to say hummer is 3, he's been to Chernobyl and that's caused immature, homophobic comments by the dozen

[gary999]

I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?

It's not boasting, just simply explaining the situation. All others had to do was say, yeah that's fair enough, but instead they bring homosexual comments into it. That's pathetic. Not us saying that were enjoying trad and earn a good living.

Again donkee, you've also joined in taking about cocks? What is it with you lot?

Kid you need to climb out of your own arse and get a sense of humor...I thought there
was hope for you when you called me a gay biscuit eater it was amusing, bit hypocritical
to start moaning about homosexual comments yourself... butI wasn't worried by it
ive been called far worse.

Don't wind yourself so much,to quote tosh... its only the interweb

[Tom White]

tosh, yes there's danger but millions use ladders daily with no issues, if you take due care, you will be fine.

If you're fast cleaning windows from a ladder, you will be chucking yourself around the windows, over-reaching, and taking short-cuts; that's not taking 'due care'.

Bad weather, a cold, a hangover, feeling under par, tired and it's just an accident waiting to happen.

I know because I've done it.

[Jakey boy]

I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?

It's not boasting, just simply explaining the situation. All others had to do was say, yeah that's fair enough, but instead they bring homosexual comments into it. That's pathetic. Not us saying that were enjoying trad and earn a good living.

Again donkee, you've also joined in taking about cocks? What is it with you lot?

Kid you need to climb out of your own arse and get a sense of humor...I thought there
was hope for you when you called me a gay biscuit eater it was amusing, bit hypocritical
to start moaning about homosexual comments yourself... butI wasn't worried by it
ive been called far worse.

Don't wind yourself so much,to quote tosh... its only the interweb

Gary I'm loving the banter, contradictions make it more fun  

[Don Kee]

I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?

It's not boasting, just simply explaining the situation. All others had to do was say, yeah that's fair enough, but instead they bring homosexual comments into it. That's pathetic. Not us saying that were enjoying trad and earn a good living.

Again donkee, you've also joined in taking about cocks? What is it with you lot?

I think i was still at school when i still cracked 'your a gay' jokes, and ususlly only because i didn't have any other come back...


Thats and what gary put above is what its based on

[Jakey boy]

tosh, yes there's danger but millions use ladders daily with no issues, if you take due care, you will be fine.

If you're fast cleaning windows from a ladder, you will be chucking yourself around the windows, over-reaching, and taking short-cuts; that's not taking 'due care'.

Bad weather, a cold, a hangover, feeling under par, tired and it's just an accident waiting to happen.

I know because I've done it.

And your still here for and healthy