[gary999]

Gary I use trad more than pole, pole is used for high work and Georgian windows, woman use wfp for every house

Duncan, ladders only kill people if they don't take adequate care, respect the ladder and it will respect you back  

Oh the naivety of youth ...wfp in general is less hard work,quicker, long term
profitable...as for being a real man...when you stop trying to prove you are one your knackers have dropped, gained a bit more experience of life and stop denying your sexuality
you might just get there

Gary, here's the issue, wfp may be faster for you, because your full of digestives,

My point in the first post was some houses are faster trad. That's my preference and findings, now if you were to use a ladder, it would of course be slower, but thats your opinion, and is that photo on your avatar you? If so, it screams camp gay biscuit eater  

You are a jealous lot, funny how the only guys who don't bang on about sexuality is the fit, young, popular, chiseled, envied ones isn't it? Says a lot I think, were the ones laughing, your the ones eating doughnuts looking like johnny Vegas!

Keep trying to get me don't you .....isn't joey enough ...I haven't cleaned a house yet
mate that is quicker and more importantly safer on ladders..although I suspect the only ladders you have across are the ones in you tights.

Don't worry about my fitness young lady..i run 3-4 times a week and relatively fit
for a old bleeder and if you see me as gay biscuit eater and it gets you off im only
too willing to brighten your day.
Jackie just for you, I am at this moment licking the edge of a chocolate digestive
and rubbing my belly....im sure this will heighten your pleasure later when your
boyfriend is back scuttling you

Ha ha there you go again, trying to belittle and insult me, when will you Learn you will just never be as good looking as me  

You can really tell who the insecure ones are on this forum, you being one of them. Can't say a good thing to better looking lad can you  

Your like a bunch of girls who hate the good looking one in school  

Stick to the topic of the thread and not my good looks for once!

 

whose trying to belittle you....only you seem to be obsessed by how you look.I haven't mentioned your looks

that may be of interest to your boyfriend but not me
 
Get a grip kid

[j timms]

Why oh why can't people on here accept that certain jobs can be cleaned quicker trad. The only thing I hate about this forum is people's ignorant attitude towards trad cleaning.  Wfp is a wonderful tool which if used properly achieves wonderful results and has definitely improved my business. But having cleaned windows for 27 years there are still times when I recognize that trad is better and or quicker. Also I have some great paying jobs that want them cleaned trad , I would be a fool to let them go through pig ignorance of only being prepared to wfp them. Imo the very best window cleaners can use both to a high standard and be prepared to be a bit flexible when taking on new work.

certain types of work can be quicker trad...but trad off ladders is not quicker than
wfp
That's what I mean by pig ignorance. I have work that is quicker off laddes

[gary999]

Why oh why can't people on here accept that certain jobs can be cleaned quicker trad. The only thing I hate about this forum is people's ignorant attitude towards trad cleaning.  Wfp is a wonderful tool which if used properly achieves wonderful results and has definitely improved my business. But having cleaned windows for 27 years there are still times when I recognize that trad is better and or quicker. Also I have some great paying jobs that want them cleaned trad , I would be a fool to let them go through pig ignorance of only being prepared to wfp them. Imo the very best window cleaners can use both to a high standard and be prepared to be a bit flexible when taking on new work.

certain types of work can be quicker trad...but trad off ladders is not quicker than
wfp
That's what I mean by pig ignorance. I have work that is quicker off laddes

No pig ignorance  is what you wrote in your reply ...okay just for you...personally I have
no work that is quicker trad which requires ladders or safer(should of stated first time)
than using WFP.

To add i don't want work trad that would require ladders especially if its from
the demands of a customer which snitch and snatch adhere to with the customers
always right attitude ..i personally find I would be a fool to take on work which
I hate or for few extra pennies risk my health because of the demands of others

Never mind pig ignorance...I call that stupidity...

[gary999]

Jakey, you're the bestest looking on here by a mile . Except for Joey, of course.
But we've got pictures of you and you've nothing useful to say, so you can go now  .

Talk about self obsessed

[keyser soze]

i find that trad can be quicker on some windows and wfp can be quicker on others , best to be able to do both . i must say i do like the results better doing it trad..... but its a  numbers game and less energy and time doing it wfp generally.

[LT carpet cleaning]

Gary I use trad more than pole, pole is used for high work and Georgian windows, woman use wfp for every house

Duncan, ladders only kill people if they don't take adequate care, respect the ladder and it will respect you back  

Oh the naivety of youth ...wfp in general is less hard work,quicker, long term
profitable...as for being a real man...when you stop trying to prove you are one your knackers have dropped, gained a bit more experience of life and stop denying your sexuality
you might just get there

Gary, here's the issue, wfp may be faster for you, because your full of digestives,

My point in the first post was some houses are faster trad. That's my preference and findings, now if you were to use a ladder, it would of course be slower, but thats your opinion, and is that photo on your avatar you? If so, it screams camp gay biscuit eater  

You are a jealous lot, funny how the only guys who don't bang on about sexuality is the fit, young, popular, chiseled, envied ones isn't it? Says a lot I think, were the ones laughing, your the ones eating doughnuts looking like johnny Vegas!

Keep trying to get me don't you .....isn't joey enough ...I haven't cleaned a house yet
mate that is quicker and more importantly safer on ladders..although I suspect the only ladders you have across are the ones in you tights.

Don't worry about my fitness young lady..i run 3-4 times a week and relatively fit
for a old bleeder and if you see me as gay biscuit eater and it gets you off im only
too willing to brighten your day.
Jackie just for you, I am at this moment licking the edge of a chocolate digestive
and rubbing my belly....im sure this will heighten your pleasure later when your
boyfriend is back scuttling you

Ha ha there you go again, trying to belittle and insult me, when will you Learn you will just never be as good looking as me  

You can really tell who the insecure ones are on this forum, you being one of them. Can't say a good thing to better looking lad can you  

Your like a bunch of girls who hate the good looking one in school  

Stick to the topic of the thread and not my good looks for once!

 

whose trying to belittle you....only you seem to be obsessed by how you look.I haven't mentioned your looks

that may be of interest to your boyfriend but not me
 
Get a grip kid

Now come on, show some respect. Else the ladder won't respect you. Or something.

[Joey Eastwood]

my god, one full day at work and iv missed all your soggy, un-funny, boring comments....

and thats just hummer

[gary999]

come off it every time your name is mentioned you get a little
thrill

[Jakey boy]

my god, one full day at work and iv missed all your soggy, un-funny, boring comments....

and thats just hummer

Ha ha! Hunmer is probably the worst at banter on the forum, he's been in Chernobyl, so is a few cells short of most. Bless him.

[Jakey boy]

come off it every time your name is mentioned you get a little
thrill

Gary you still being insecure? You've already been called ignorant, and I'm going to say it again, your ignorant!

You and your poles, so far up your ass you can't swallow!

[Jakey boy]

Jakey, you're the bestest looking on here by a mile 💕. Except for Joey, of course.
But we've got pictures of you and you've nothing useful to say, so you can go now  .

I can't go, every forum needs a super star griff

[Walter Mitty]

Real men use ladders.




Sent from my hospital bed

[kempy]

Everyone just work the way they want to .
Take advice and learn from others .
But persons should appreciate how persons work .

We're all different and have different needs and work methods

[chris turner]

I will have to admit if your quick at trading then it can be quicker then poling.
I was purely trad for 7 years and got very quick at it. Maybe because I'm young, 29 now, been window cleaning since I was 18.
I use to absolutely slate wfp to my customers, only because I couldn't afford It at the time haha.
Once I was a bit more flush I decided to give it a go and havnt looked back.
Although I can trad quicker then I can pole I Purley use the pole out of personal choice now. I find it more professional, safer and if used correctly does a better job.

[Jakey boy]

Real men use ladders.




Sent from my hospital bed

Yep, or atleast have the option and not be ignorant on wfp being the only way. Like hummer and Gary!

There are millions using ladders who never have an issue!

[Joe berry]

Real men use ladders.

Wfp obviously has it's pros! But can beat a doing it trad way! Gotta say agree with jakey on this point!

Sent from my hospital bed

Yep, or atleast have the option and not be ignorant on wfp being the only way. Like hummer and Gary!

There are millions using ladders who never have an issue!

[jimiwindows]

 Get on this one jakey boy.

[Walter Mitty]

Real men use ladders.




Sent from my hospital bed

Yep, or atleast have the option and not be ignorant on wfp being the only way. Like hummer and Gary!

There are millions using ladders who never have an issue!

.  Yeah, I did 14 years on the ladders.  Although I never had a bad accident, I did have a couple of very near misses - either of which could have maimed or killed me.  I was fortunate that I ended up with relatively minor cuts and bruises.  I switched to WFP shortly after the second incident.  I had been considering it for a while and that nudged me into it.  Nine years on I am unused to ladders.  I do carry one for the odd bit of flat roof access but that's all.  As poles have got lighter, I bridge over flat roofs rather than climbing onto them - though sometimes that's not possible.

[Tom White]

Everyone just work the way they want to .
Take advice and learn from others .
But persons should appreciate how persons work .

We're all different and have different needs and work methods

Yes, I agree, but that's not the discussion here.

But wfp is still faster for the vast majority of external window cleaning.

If someone isn't finding that is it, they're doing it wrong.

It's also easier too.

[Jakey boy]

Everyone just work the way they want to .
Take advice and learn from others .
But persons should appreciate how persons work .

We're all different and have different needs and work methods

Yes, I agree, but that's not the discussion here.

But wfp is still faster for the vast majority of external window cleaning.

If someone isn't finding that is it, they're doing it wrong.

It's also easier too.

I think it the windows are particular dirty, especially the upstairs, then trad is quicker, today I did a new house which was filthy and disgusting. A bit like hummer. Anyway, there was no way wfp was going to be quicker, the brush would have been cakes in crap, and trad was by far the easier option. I could wipe the frames and then do the window quickly with a very good result, wfp would have left spotting due to how dirty it was around the frames etc. wfp could of worked but I know from expirence it would have taken longer,

I would love you race a wfp guy on certain houses and compare results!

Remember at the beginning I stated that I find trad quicker on 'some houses' not all.