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Joey Eastwood

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2015, 06:33:39 pm »

Err tosh, I think you'll find joey doesn't use wfp...

Ah, I see, so he's feeling inadequate.  He's probably feeling a bit daft with his ladders on a pram, watching guys with flash vans zoom past him.

But as soon as he can afford a system, he'll be doing it.

We used to have these discussions with Squeaky - and he reckoned he was faster trad than we were with a wfp.

He's been using wfp for a few years now. ;D

i have a van with adequate room for a tank if need be, i have never said i wont ever be wfp, because chances are i will be, chances are my expenses will go up after i do, il probs loose a lot of customers because so e of my rounds where established by my old company since 1990 and always been done trad.

as for cant afford it, i went on holiday to burkina faso and greece last year, each holiday the cost of a wfp set up..... lol. im 25 with a house, wife, 2 cars, 2 kids, van, certainly not skint mate.
when life throws you water, clean windows

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2015, 06:35:11 pm »
I also don't wear all those stupid gadgets. Blade and applicator with ladder and scrim. Nothing else.

I found a scraper came in handy.

Scrapers in the bum bag,

Love to see a wfp guy get stuck with hard stains. Trad dominates then too. Hate it when I'm using the wfp and there's a hard mark that won't come off. Another point to trad... ;D

that baked on, solid bird poo, nightmare with a scraper when its infront of your face let alone 20foot up.... lol
when life throws you water, clean windows

Jakey boy

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #122 on: February 05, 2015, 06:37:30 pm »

Err tosh, I think you'll find joey doesn't use wfp...

Ah, I see, so he's feeling inadequate.  He's probably feeling a bit daft with his ladders on a pram, watching guys with flash vans zoom past him.

But as soon as he can afford a system, he'll be doing it.

We used to have these discussions with Squeaky - and he reckoned he was faster trad than we were with a wfp.

He's been using wfp for a few years now. ;D

i have a van with adequate room for a tank if need be, i have never said i wont ever be wfp, because chances are i will be, chances are my expenses will go up after i do, il probs loose a lot of customers because so e of my rounds where established by my old company since 1990 and always been done trad.

as for cant afford it, i went on holiday to burkina faso and greece last year, each holiday the cost of a wfp set up..... lol. im 25 with a house, wife, 2 cars, 2 kids, van, certainly not skint mate.

Well said. I'm 26, off to New York in March. Bought a second hand wfp setup, no way I'd have bought new, holidays much better! Found wfp good, but still do 50% of work trad. Gets me more customers as many hate wfp. Means I can price higher for the trad service. Saves me loads of money on water, I only use about  750l a month ! A small bucket with trad gear is ridiculously cheap.

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2015, 06:40:21 pm »

Err tosh, I think you'll find joey doesn't use wfp...

Ah, I see, so he's feeling inadequate.  He's probably feeling a bit daft with his ladders on a pram, watching guys with flash vans zoom past him.

But as soon as he can afford a system, he'll be doing it.

We used to have these discussions with Squeaky - and he reckoned he was faster trad than we were with a wfp.

He's been using wfp for a few years now. ;D

i have a van with adequate room for a tank if need be, i have never said i wont ever be wfp, because chances are i will be, chances are my expenses will go up after i do, il probs loose a lot of customers because so e of my rounds where established by my old company since 1990 and always been done trad.

as for cant afford it, i went on holiday to burkina faso and greece last year, each holiday the cost of a wfp set up..... lol. im 25 with a house, wife, 2 cars, 2 kids, van, certainly not skint mate.

Well said. I'm 26, off to New York in March. Bought a second hand wfp setup, no way I'd have bought new, holidays much better! Found wfp good, but still do 50% of work trad. Gets me more customers as many hate wfp. Means I can price higher for the trad service. Saves me loads of money on water, I only use about  750l a month ! A small bucket with trad gear is ridiculously cheap.

exactly, £150 and you have got a set of ladders, bucket and all your gear. a days work and expenses are... 25p a day soap plus fuel lol
when life throws you water, clean windows

8weekly

Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2015, 06:41:22 pm »

Err tosh, I think you'll find joey doesn't use wfp...

Ah, I see, so he's feeling inadequate.  He's probably feeling a bit daft with his ladders on a pram, watching guys with flash vans zoom past him.

But as soon as he can afford a system, he'll be doing it.

We used to have these discussions with Squeaky - and he reckoned he was faster trad than we were with a wfp.

He's been using wfp for a few years now. ;D

i have a van with adequate room for a tank if need be, i have never said i wont ever be wfp, because chances are i will be, chances are my expenses will go up after i do, il probs loose a lot of customers because so e of my rounds where established by my old company since 1990 and always been done trad.

as for cant afford it, i went on holiday to burkina faso and greece last year, each holiday the cost of a wfp set up..... lol. im 25 with a house, wife, 2 cars, 2 kids, van, certainly not skint mate.

Well said. I'm 26, off to New York in March. Bought a second hand wfp setup, no way I'd have bought new, holidays much better! Found wfp good, but still do 50% of work trad. Gets me more customers as many hate wfp. Means I can price higher for the trad service. Saves me loads of money on water, I only use about  750l a month ! A small bucket with trad gear is ridiculously cheap.

exactly, £150 and you have got a set of ladders, bucket and all your gear. a days work and expenses are... 25p a day soap plus fuel lol
That's why you get so many doleys doing it.

Don Kee

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2015, 06:42:47 pm »
I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

Tom White

Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #126 on: February 05, 2015, 06:45:24 pm »
after i do, il probs loose a lot of customers because so e of my rounds where established by my old company since 1990 and always been done trad.

So fear is stopping you from going wfp?  Overcome it.  I think I lost two customers, maybe three, when we changed over.

Most customers don't care as long as their windows are cleaned.  Others took an interest and asked me about it.

Now, the vast majority of window cleaners around my way are wfp; I don't even explain it any more.

Oh, and recently I was asked to quote for a factory unit because they actually wanted someone who used it and their window cleaner who wouldn't convert got the 'chop chop'.  This company does a lot of 'working at height' and they didn't want a window cleaner on ladders, when they themselves are so safety conscious.

From that one job, I picked up another two factory units, making my total there five of them.

WFP is the way ahead.  Don't be frightened about converting over.

Tom White

Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #127 on: February 05, 2015, 06:45:51 pm »
I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?


+1

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #128 on: February 05, 2015, 06:46:49 pm »
I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?


are you stupid. seriously have u read anything on this thread? i was called poor so defended myself...
when life throws you water, clean windows

kempy

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #129 on: February 05, 2015, 06:48:22 pm »
Each to their own .
I'm mostly Wfp , all commercial are Wfp , and majority of tops of houses .
I do trad a few houses downstairs .

And maybe do about 20 full houses trad still .

The Bonus is we have a choice to Wfp or trad , which Is good .

There's certainly advantages in being Trad and Wfp .

Just be happy with either , everyone decides what they want to do . Simple ..both are good  methods

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #130 on: February 05, 2015, 06:50:30 pm »
after i do, il probs loose a lot of customers because so e of my rounds where established by my old company since 1990 and always been done trad.

So fear is stopping you from going wfp?  Overcome it.  I think I lost two customers, maybe three, when we changed over.

Most customers don't care as long as their windows are cleaned.  Others took an interest and asked me about it.

Now, the vast majority of window cleaners around my way are wfp; I don't even explain it any more.

Oh, and recently I was asked to quote for a factory unit because they actually wanted someone who used it and their window cleaner who wouldn't convert got the 'chop chop'.  This company does a lot of 'working at height' and they didn't want a window cleaner on ladders, when they themselves are so safety conscious.

From that one job, I picked up another two factory units, making my total there five of them.

WFP is the way ahead.  Don't be frightened about converting over.

well done :) no its not that at all, if it got to the point where i had to i would, but i dont. i enjoy ladder work to be honest, i earn a good wage and the guy who works for me part time is actually older than me, i do better than most my age. if my health suffered or i had a fall id be straight on it, or if i thought id earn substantially more, but tbh i wouldnt
when life throws you water, clean windows

Don Kee

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #131 on: February 05, 2015, 06:51:30 pm »
I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?


are you stupid. seriously have u read anything on this thread? i was called poor so defended myself...


Seem to remember someone nearly crying when hummer had a pop at his intelligence...



Yep i've read the thread mate, rise above it...be the bigger man
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

Jakey boy

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #132 on: February 05, 2015, 06:51:33 pm »
I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?


It's not boasting, just simply explaining the situation. All others had to do was say, yeah that's fair enough, but instead they bring homosexual comments into it. That's pathetic. Not us saying that were enjoying trad and earn a good living.

Again donkee, you've also joined in taking about cocks? What is it with you lot?

Joey Eastwood

  • Posts: 400
Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #133 on: February 05, 2015, 06:53:33 pm »
I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?


are you stupid. seriously have u read anything on this thread? i was called poor so defended myself...


Seem to remember someone nearly crying when hummer had a pop at his intelligence...



Yep i've read the thread mate, rise above it...be the bigger man

i think someone was on the same trip to chernobyll with old bummer to be honest.
when life throws you water, clean windows

dazmond

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #134 on: February 05, 2015, 06:55:11 pm »
what about a bucket on a belt?you ll be telling us you carry your blade and mop in your hand while your climbing your ladder! ::)roll ;D
price higher/work harder!

Jakey boy

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #135 on: February 05, 2015, 06:55:21 pm »
I have nothing against either jakey or clint, but after reading all the drivel on this thread dont degrade yourself to trying to boast about 'how much you earn'...


Just makes you look like a tw@...

If you enjoy trad (i know i do) then crack on. If your prefer wfp (i'm 99% pole) then happy days!

Its one thing claiming you can do a better job with either method, but its turning into a cock measuring contest now, have you not grown out of that yet..?


are you stupid. seriously have u read anything on this thread? i was called poor so defended myself...


Seem to remember someone nearly crying when hummer had a pop at his intelligence...



Yep i've read the thread mate, rise above it...be the bigger man

i think someone was on the same trip to chernobyll with old bummer to be honest.

Seems that way

Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #136 on: February 05, 2015, 06:55:38 pm »
Don't i'm getting aroused now...



God, don't tell jakey that. All kinds of fantasies will enter his dirty little mind. Little being the operative word. He's already admitted to thinking about me all dirty and in scrubbed.

He's not just diminutive in size, but in intelligence too.   ;D

(Btw jakey, diminutive means small  :D)

Jakey boy

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #137 on: February 05, 2015, 06:56:00 pm »
what about a bucket on a belt?you ll be telling us you carry your blade and mop in your hand while your climbing your ladder! ::)roll ;D

Yeah that's what I've always done, stupid belts are for girls  ; ;D

I hate the belts with buckets on, there a hindrance. In the way, annoying, leak everywhere, bash against gates, get van wet bla bla

Don Kee

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #138 on: February 05, 2015, 06:56:59 pm »
*yawn*

Ok mate, you win...keep arguing and throwing juvenile insults (not just you to be fair)to everyone just because the mean people wont listen...

I'll carry on not giving a cr@p what people i dont know think of me and carry on doing what i do  :)

Enjoy



Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

Jakey boy

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Re: Still find trad quicker for some houses...
« Reply #139 on: February 05, 2015, 06:59:11 pm »
Don't i'm getting aroused now...



God, don't tell jakey that. All kinds of fantasies will enter his dirty little mind. Little being the operative word. He's already admitted to thinking about me all dirty and in scrubbed.

He's not just diminutive in size, but in intelligence too.   ;D

(Btw jakey, diminutive means small  :D)

There you go again! Reading through the posts your the one with the sexual references and dirty mind. That's a fact. Your a sick twisted man!