[Jakey boy]

I've been timing my work recently for a comparison on wfp and trad,

Now obviously Georgian windows and leaded windows etc are a million times faster doing wfp than trad,

However,

On standard windows, I find trad is faster, especially with this new squeegee I'm trialling from 'polz & bladz'. I find it's faster because you don't have to stand about rinsing, and scrubbing as much, with trad it's literally seconds on each window. Quick mop and then blade off, wipe sills, done.
 
Of course I know most if you will disagree, but I find that by the time you've dragged the hose around plant pots, extended the pole, scrubbed the frames/windows then rinsing off, it's quicker to trad it! This applies to standard windows, as I i said wfp is miles quicker on little square windows etx...

[8weekly]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

[Jonny 87]

I've been timing my work recently for a comparison on wfp and trad,

Now obviously Georgian windows and leaded windows etc are a million times faster doing wfp than trad,

However,

On standard windows, I find trad is faster, especially with this new squeegee I'm trialling from 'polz & bladz'. I find it's faster because you don't have to stand about rinsing, and scrubbing as much, with trad it's literally seconds on each window. Quick mop and then blade off, wipe sills, done.
 
Of course I know most if you will disagree, but I find that by the time you've dragged the hose around plant pots, extended the pole, scrubbed the frames/windows then rinsing off, it's quicker to trad it! This applies to standard windows, as I i said wfp is miles quicker on little square windows etx...

It's only quicker trad if you don't do frames. Even then I would reckon I'm still faster when you take into account ladder set up and moving from window yo window repositioning the ladder.

Mayb your just too thorugh with WFP.

[Clever Forum Name]

I do some car showrooms. I HAD to use WFP this time as I snapped a key in the lock on one of the pointers lol

The time it took me todo half the front was the same time for the whole outside.

However unless it's lower floor. I would rather stick a wasp in my pants then go up ladders full time again. I value my life far more than a clean window.

[Jakey boy]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

[Jakey boy]

I do some car showrooms. I HAD to use WFP this time as I snapped a key in the lock on one of the pointers lol

The time it took me todo half the front was the same time for the whole outside.

However unless it's lower floor. I would rather stick a wasp in my pants then go up ladders full time again. I value my life far more than a clean window.

I used to go up 3 floors regularly off ladders, but no way now. But downstairs and upstairs houses are still easy with a ladder imo, I defo no longer go up 3rd floor anymore, always wfp at that height now.

One thing is almost for sure, downstairs windows are much faster trad, especially patio doors, I get annoyed doing downstairs windows with wfp, it's always awkward and slow, in saying that, I'm not one of those people who do wfp tops and trad bottoms. I either use wfp or trad full stop - dependant on type of house...

[duncan h]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

[Jakey boy]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

[dazmond]

i was 100% trad for 17 years and was fast at it but after nearly 5 years wfp its just easier and faster to pole nearly all my work.

i really cant be bothered to get my ladders off to clean upper windows if i can pole them from the ground.same for most ground floors too.

[Jakey boy]

i was 100% trad for 17 years and was fast at it but after nearly 5 years wfp its just easier and faster to pole nearly all my work.

i really cant be bothered to get my ladders off to clean upper windows if i can pole them from the ground.same for most ground floors too.

Yeah but remember your old and fat daz!

[Clever Forum Name]

I do some car showrooms. I HAD to use WFP this time as I snapped a key in the lock on one of the pointers lol

The time it took me todo half the front was the same time for the whole outside.

However unless it's lower floor. I would rather stick a wasp in my pants then go up ladders full time again. I value my life far more than a clean window.

I used to go up 3 floors regularly off ladders, but no way now. But downstairs and upstairs houses are still easy with a ladder imo, I defo no longer go up 3rd floor anymore, always wfp at that height now.

One thing is almost for sure, downstairs windows are much faster trad, especially patio doors, I get annoyed doing downstairs windows with wfp, it's always awkward and slow, in saying that, I'm not one of those people who do wfp tops and trad bottoms. I either use wfp or trad full stop - dependant on type of house...

I think doors and patio doors would be quicker trad and even some other windows. Just lazy I guess

[duncan h]

Do you levitate to the upstairs ones?

Almost, I'm very quick at trad, learnt the trade that way and after years of trad, you get very quick, I tend to be half wfp and half trad. The problem with wfp for me is rinsing, it's very time consuming on hydrophobic glass, seems to take forever for the bits of dirt to fall down. Whereas trad, the squeegee just owns the window in seconds!

increase your flow rate. Rinsing takes me about 4 seconds. NOT LONG

I rinse on about 45 From shurflo...

I rinse on about 98 from shurflo....with fan jets

[Joey Eastwood]

keeps me fit aswel, up and down a ladder and carrying it etc, workout! probs why all you wfp'ers are fat

[Jakey boy]

keeps me fit aswel, up and down a ladder and carrying it etc, workout! probs why all you wfp'ers are fat

Lol

[Mick Kent]

I can 2nd that. Im a fat bastood wfper at 17 stone  

[CleanClear]

However,

On standard windows, I find trad is faster, especially with this new squeegee I'm trialling from 'polz & bladz'. I find it's faster because you don't have to stand about rinsing, and scrubbing as much, with trad it's literally seconds on each window. Quick mop and then blade off, wipe sills, done.
 

February 2015 and we find trad is quicker when using a "new" squeegee, because we don't have to detail. Rock and roll !!!!   

[ChumBucket]

I do a small estate of bungalows & I can whip round with a pointer & wagtail flipper much faster than wfp overall when you take into account van movements, reeling in/out etc.

[CleanClear]

I do a small estate of bungalows & I can whip round with a pointer & wagtail flipper much faster than wfp overall when you take into account van movements, reeling in/out etc.

I know you say you dont clean the top frame when you WFP, but do you clean it when you trad ?

[Joey Eastwood]

i do all frames all the time  if i like the customer haha, anyone i dont like or know I do as little as i can get away with

[ChumBucket]

I do a small estate of bungalows & I can whip round with a pointer & wagtail flipper much faster than wfp overall when you take into account van movements, reeling in/out etc.

I know you say you dont clean the top frame when you WFP, but do you clean it when you trad ?

No.

Don't get me wrong, if a top frame has masses of cobwebs with leaves stuck in them etc I'll knock them off with a dry brush or butt of pole (turned round of course) but I don't wet the top frame- only in very rare cases.