[joe34]

Hi, how does everyone manage when cleaning upstairs ? I've got a prochem endeavour and it's a lump of a machine I've got 50ft of hose but for some jobs I know it's not going to be enough .it's got some big back wheels on it but I'm yet to try and get it up and down the stairs does anyone take there machines up and down stairs ok?without breaking  their back or damaging the customers house

[steve prince]

Simple by another 25 ft of hose, it looks bad taking a machine up someone's stairs and also dangerous

[joe34]

Yeah I think your right was just worried about the power adding more hose as its only got a 150psi pump I know the vac motors will be fine.might have to look into getting a bigger one too.

[wayne zabel]

Hi, how does everyone manage when cleaning upstairs ? I've got a prochem endeavour and it's a lump of a machine I've got 50ft of hose but for some jobs I know it's not going to be enough .it's got some big back wheels on it but I'm yet to try and get it up and down the stairs does anyone take there machines up and down stairs ok?without breaking  their back or damaging the customers house

I have only once had a problem with 50 ft not being enough to get to a far bedroom and this was in a huge posh house.

99% of jobs I can use 50 ft and leave the machine outside,sometime it is brought inside but very rarely

[Darran Pryce]

We have 75ft, but very very hardly use all of it.. Why not go up and through the window on the outside of the house... this can save you lot of footage.

[joe34]

That's handy to know .just wondering about the 150psi do you think it's worth upgrading  as there is a option to put 220 psi pump in it

[jim mca]

A few times I have needed 100 feet to reach in large houses if you are running 2 inch hose sucks just as good as 50 feet with 6.6 vacs but I work in a lot of flats with no lifts so have a airflex mini twin vac easy to take up stairwells.

[Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)]

Well to answer the question.

I have a Ninja-so similar weight and specification.

There were many times I had to lump it up flights of stairs-often in blocks of flats.

All I can say is that there is definitely a knack to it but it comes fairly easily with practice.

For me I tended to use the weight and momentum of the machine itself to go up and down stairs rather than trying to dead lift it.

Rog

[Ian Gourlay]

Ive only been caught out once when I could not do itv with hoses and that was in a Hotel I was going to buy a Stair Climbing Trolley but was worried about damaging equipment banging it up an down stairs. I think if you carried out a Risk assessment of lumping Carpet Cleaning equipment up and down stairs single handed it would fail  If you asked an emplyee to do it anything went wrong  you would be liable treat yourself as as you would have to an emplyee when risk is involved

[Derek_Walker]

Although these large machines are called portables, trying to struggle upstairs with one is not ideal on your own. If it's a twin vac 5.7 then the most you want to go is 75 feet without a huge amount of vacuum loss. The pump pressure won't matter too much.
A triple vac or twin 6.6 will easily go 150 feet.

[stuart_clark]

I carry 100ft of hose on the van, but I can count on one hand how many times I've used more than 50ft in the last five years, its very rare to say the least, in the main I leave the machine outside and 50ft for most jobs is more than adequate, I have two scorpions and although they are much lighter than other machines in there class, I've only carried them up a staircase if say for instance I have been working in a flat wiyhout a lift, but on very few times



Stuart

[john martin]

I carry 100ft of hose on the van, but I can count on one hand how many times I've used more than 50ft in the last five years, its very rare to say the least, in the main I leave the machine outside and 50ft for most jobs is more than adequate, I have two scorpions and although they are much lighter than other machines in there class, I've only carried them up a staircase if say for instance I have been working in a flat wiyhout a lift, but on very few times



Stuart

I bet you'd struggle way more than an Airflex or even my Enforcer

[john martin]

Although these large machines are called portables, trying to struggle upstairs with one is not ideal on your own. If it's a twin vac 5.7 then the most you want to go is 75 feet without a huge amount of vacuum loss. The pump pressure won't matter too much.
A triple vac or twin 6.6 will easily go 150 feet.

That would depend on what 5.7 is fitted .

[joe34]

Thanks, for all advice .would the 150psi pump still do a good job at 50,75 ft?

[stuart_clark]

John

I can get my Scorpy up a staircase with one hand on the handle, bet you cant do that with an enforcer and definitely not an airflex,  I dont know the exact weight of the those two machines, but there has plenty said on this forum about there extra weight and how cumbersome they are, for me I cant see me changing from my Scorpy as it has the right balance of power and weight that nothing else on the market at present compares with it



Stuart

[john martin]

John

I can get my Scorpy up a staircase with one hand on the handle, bet you cant do that with an enforcer and definitely not an airflex,  I dont know the exact weight of the those two machines, but there has plenty said on this forum about there extra weight and how cumbersome they are, for me I cant see me changing from my Scorpy as it has the right balance of power and weight that nothing else on the market at present compares with it




Stuart

Fair enough , im picturing you are as 6'4 rugby player now ...   like i said i had the misery for a few  years ago and the thing wasn't going near stairs with the long overhang .
The airflex i believe is lighter than the Enforcer ...   i can do stairs with little problems with Enforcer if need be , but would never have to in any domestic house ...  i am quad vac boosted ya know  .

[stuart_clark]

I know what you have John and sure its a mighty powerfull set up, and I know what you mean by the over hang of the Scorpion, but in the eight years I've owned them I've only climbed stairs with them half a dozen times, I am of the intention , if I cant manage with 100ft of hose they need to get someone else with a TM

[Kinver_Clean]

A hose of 150ft would just about start to make a difference on the pressure. You will not notice any difference at 50-75 ft.
Vac will start to drop off more over 50ft but it is quicker to take longer doing more drying strokes than haul it upstairs.
I had 2  30ft hoses and rarely had all of it unwound with the machine outside the door.
Only time machine went inside or up stairs was when doing a flat where I could not run it in public area.