[mufcglen]

sorry pal,ive already apologised if im missing something i dont know as im not a pole seller so im not best placed to tell him apart from offer my oppinion that i thought it was too much for my liking considering i wouldnt use half the parts!
i just thought he could sell the bits separatly like Gardiner do and people decide what they want rather than have to buy a full kit and not use half the parts.
i know i dont have to buy the kit but i'd like an option to buy the parts i'd use, why would i need to top pole insert when i use gardiner quick loc and also the polehose im happy with what i use!
surely he would be making money if he sold the rectus and sleeves for £25, i'd pay that and he's not definatly not making a loss on that?

[Smudger]

How Steve sells his product is his choice, do you go into tesco and complain that you want 2 slices of bread and not a total loaf ? If a customer asks you to clean only one window on the property do you do that? And if so only charge 50p even tho you could have cleaned a complete house in much the same time ?

Sorry to say...
You are just coming over argumentative just for the sake of it.

Darran

[duncan h]

i can safely say im none of those guys, i earn £20-30 an hour max and would never get near £50 no matter how much i rushed and thats working in the dry, i would never work in the rain myself, this week has been one of the worst i've had in a while so im not one of these guys who have lots of money and one of the reasons i ask about prices etc, even if i was making big money i'd still like a bargain who wouldnt!
sorry Dave i misread your post as Trev said you are only sending the pole hose up the pole like any other pole except theres one piece permanantly fixed in the top section and the rest can disconnect when the pole is closed up again!

Same here mate.
You have said nothing wrong. Why do people on this forum get so high rate

[mufcglen]

sorry if it seems like that pal but im just giving feedback,using your tesco example they listen to customers and adjust things from time to time so why cant i offer my advice, is that not allowed?
and yes steven is allowed to sell it at what ever he wants im not totally complaining about the price of the kit, its more why would i want to pay that much for a kit where i'd only use half the parts, he's selling the kit that it fits slx/clx conversion kit then surely he could understand that many wont use those other bits in the kit and adjust the price accordingly? if not thats fair enough its his kit and design and i wouldnt argue with that but he did ask what did i think it was worth in an earlier post?

[mufcglen]

i can safely say im none of those guys, i earn £20-30 an hour max and would never get near £50 no matter how much i rushed and thats working in the dry, i would never work in the rain myself, this week has been one of the worst i've had in a while so im not one of these guys who have lots of money and one of the reasons i ask about prices etc, even if i was making big money i'd still like a bargain who wouldnt!
sorry Dave i misread your post as Trev said you are only sending the pole hose up the pole like any other pole except theres one piece permanantly fixed in the top section and the rest can disconnect when the pole is closed up again!

Same here mate.
You have said nothing wrong. Why do people on this forum get so high rate

lol cheers Duncan, people are saying i want something for peanuts which isnt true, i just dont want to pay for bits i wouldnt use and then other people insinuating that im one of the guys thats come on here saying they earn £50 an hour and work in all rain conditions, where that has come from im not sure as ive never said those sort of comments in any of my hundreds of posts on here lol!!!

[Joey Eastwood]

i can safely say im none of those guys, i earn £20-30 an hour max and would never get near £50 no matter how much i rushed and thats working in the dry, i would never work in the rain myself, this week has been one of the worst i've had in a while so im not one of these guys who have lots of money and one of the reasons i ask about prices etc, even if i was making big money i'd still like a bargain who wouldnt!
sorry Dave i misread your post as Trev said you are only sending the pole hose up the pole like any other pole except theres one piece permanantly fixed in the top section and the rest can disconnect when the pole is closed up again!

Same here mate.
You have said nothing wrong. Why do people on this forum get so high rate

lol cheers Duncan, people are saying i want something for peanuts which isnt true, i just dont want to pay for bits i wouldnt use and then other people insinuating that im one of the guys thats come on here saying they earn £50 an hour and work in all rain conditions, where that has come from im not sure as ive never said those sort of comments in any of my hundreds of posts on here lol!!!

they are insinuating you earn £50 an hour...
£50 an hour IS THAT IT??? you poor soul its normally at least 4grand a day lol

[steven jones]

Sorry chaps, can't be bothered to read the whole post but are you sending the reel hose up your pole when extending it?

Here's a video link explaining pole hose attachment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPFDuZbSLl4

Steven.

[mufcglen]

Steven what do you think of my comments, im not meaning to offend and if it costs you a lot more to make the bits i mentioned or not viable to sell the bits apart i fully understand.

[steven jones]

Hi Cheshire,

The problem I have, is if we rely on customers to source there own parts, then if it does not go to plan, we as a company get the blame.
it's like the piece of hose you get with the kit, it is stretchy hose which you need for it to work.
the sleeve ejector need to be able to be pulled out the base to release it from the pole.
you cannot use pvc hose to do this as this time of year it goes to hard to stretch. If you buy the kit and don't diy then you buy hassle free setup, with full instructions.

Steven.

[mufcglen]

ah right thats fair enough pal, thanks for explaining that, i just presumed it was normal pole hose rather than something abit more special.
and i fully understand your comment on people mixing and matching brands etc,maybe in the future then when im due a new pole i might invest in one of yours with the hoseless kit but for now i'll stick with my diy version im building unless you could do it cheaper without that top insert but with the piece of special hose thats needed to make it work? .
i really hope it goes well for you as companies like gardiner need real competition from the likes of yourself to keep them on theyre toes and thats all good for the us the customer lol.

[steven jones]

Hi Cheshire,

Also would just like to mention that the rectus fittings male and female must be new, we would hate the fact that customers use "used" rectus fittings, that would leave a possibility to leak water, something that you do not want when the fitting is inside the pole.
The male rectus fitting in the kit is"Stainless Steel" which is designed to last.
By selling complete kit we know that what the customer receives is approved by us.
Of course im not offended, its purely a lack of explanation on my part.

Steven.

[mufcglen]

cheers pal not just a lack of explanation on your part but an assumption on my part that its just a basic kit your throwing out, by your wording it sounds like youve made sure its spot on from the more flexible hose to the stainless male rectus not forgetting the sleeves!
if you dont mind me saying you need to big up your poles and equipment, it sounds like your doing them an injustice not mentioning these little details lol

[Spruce]

..... and Steven's concept has to work under all circumstances and with all the equipment he sells, like the Aquadapter.

[david mark]

O one problem his sold all his poles. Steve when will you be getting more poles in.

[steven jones]

Hi David,

im waiting on a delivery at the moment, its frustrating, keep you informed.

Steven.

[Dave Willis]

Hey Cheshire my tongue in cheek comment wasn't aimed at you - I don't know if you work in the rain or not. It was a generalisation of the forum - you get the guys who work in 'all weathers' with their Goretex coats and boots and rain guarantees. Trouble is when the weather's bad the same guys are on here doing 'office work' or filing their tax returns.
I think Chums post was in a similar vein.

[richard groves]

Hey Cheshire my tongue in cheek comment wasn't aimed at you - I don't know if you work in the rain or not. It was a generalisation of the forum - you get the guys who work in 'all weathers' with their Goretex coats and boots and rain guarantees. Trouble is when the weather's bad the same guys are on here doing 'office work' or filing their tax returns.
I think Chums post was in a similar vein.

......or their van is in for a service and their taking a long weekend break to a 5 star hotel somewhere 

[mufcglen]

Hey Cheshire my tongue in cheek comment wasn't aimed at you - I don't know if you work in the rain or not. It was a generalisation of the forum - you get the guys who work in 'all weathers' with their Goretex coats and boots and rain guarantees. Trouble is when the weather's bad the same guys are on here doing 'office work' or filing their tax returns.
I think Chums post was in a similar vein.

lol no probs pal i thought everyone was jumping on me for trying to suggest Steve could possibly do it cheaper without certain bits but now after he's pointed out why certain bits are needed etc and the time it sounds like he's taken to make sure the bits work correctly like the stainless male rectus, im not gonna argue with his prices!!

[duncan h]

Sorry chaps, can't be bothered to read the whole post but are you sending the reel hose up your pole when extending it?

Here's a video link explaining pole hose attachment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPFDuZbSLl4

Steven.

One small problem I can see. The hose is joined with a O clip. When reeling in, it could cut your hand on the lug....or even catch on something

[stevon]

insulation tape will sort it.