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paulben

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do you salt after wfp
« on: January 19, 2015, 05:05:58 pm »
What do you do about water from wfp on paths and around doors in this weather
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Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20755
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 05:09:58 pm »
Yes.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

duncan h

  • Posts: 1875
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 05:14:08 pm »
not if before dinner time. It should have soaked up. If you say own a pub and you salt, you are liable. If you leave it, your not. What a screwed world we live in.

andyM

  • Posts: 6100
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 05:29:07 pm »
If you're going to put salt down it's probably better to do it before you splash water about.
One of the Plebs

Tom-01

  • Posts: 1348
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 05:50:57 pm »
Someone told me that if we put salt down after we have cleaned 'we are admitting liability' - if we just leave it and it ices up well then thats not our fault.

We don't salt.

Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2015, 06:13:16 pm »
NO
Its just another expense, I won't earn any more for doing it.
If it's that cold I probably wouldn't be working anyway.
i'd just start a bit later .
Then there is the admitting liability as already mentioned.
A bit of common sense can also be exercised and not wfp everything e.g shop windows, front doors etc. get ya trad tools out

Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20755
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 06:16:43 pm »
Someone told me that if we put salt down after we have cleaned 'we are admitting liability' - if we just leave it and it ices up well then thats not our fault.

We don't salt.

Who?

I've read similar things in the newspaper but newspapers aren't really a reliable source. If I saw an actual report of this happening I may reconsider, but I do lots of old folks and I feel I have a duty of care to ensure I'm not turning their path into an ice rink.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

PoleKing

  • Posts: 8974
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 06:20:29 pm »
No.

As a rule of thumb, if where the water from WFP would land, would get rained on-I crack on and clean.
If it'd stay dry in a rain shower, I don't wet it.
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SB Cleaning

  • Posts: 4285
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 06:21:30 pm »
Do i hell ;D

Plankton

  • Posts: 2441
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 07:13:21 pm »
Mr Bitt, Soupy and PoleKing

Reminds me of many theory questions, which of the above is correct

A-exercise common sense
B-duty of care
C-rule of thumb
D-all of the above

My answer - D

Jonny 87

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Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 07:19:24 pm »
I always put salt down anywhere that I've left water that there is likely to be someone walking on.

It's common sense to me.

If I don't salt it someone may well fall and hurt themselves.

If i do salt it then this won't happen.

Plus I use the more expensive white salt, that doesn't even look like there is any grit down once it has melted the ice. I hate the orange cheap stuff.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

PoleKing

  • Posts: 8974
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 10:20:51 pm »
I always put salt down anywhere that I've left water that there is likely to be someone walking on.

It's common sense to me.

If I don't salt it someone may well fall and hurt themselves.

If i do salt it then this won't may not happen.

Plus I use the more expensive white salt, that doesn't even look like there is any grit down once it has melted the ice. I hate the orange cheap stuff.

Not to be pedantic but...
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Arnold Palmer

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Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 10:23:18 pm »
I always put salt down anywhere that I've left water that there is likely to be someone walking on.

It's common sense to me.

If I don't salt it someone may well fall and hurt themselves.

If i do salt it then this won't may not is less likely to happen.

Plus I use the more expensive white salt, that doesn't even look like there is any grit down once it has melted the ice. I hate the orange cheap stuff.

Not to be pedantic but...

If we're going to be pedantic.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

dazmond

  • Posts: 23945
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2015, 10:26:56 pm »
i use ice melt grit on some properties.in fact for some old dears (usually with sloping driveways)ill offer to grit it for them even if ive not left any water on it in freezing weather.just good practice IMO if ive got it in the van.

lots dont want you to either so i always ask.if their not in i sweep any standing water away from pathways/entrances esp later on in the day.
price higher/work harder!

PoleKing

  • Posts: 8974
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2015, 10:27:01 pm »
I always put salt down anywhere that I've left water that there is likely to be someone walking on.

It's common sense to me.

If I don't salt it someone may well fall and hurt themselves.

If i do salt it then this won't may not is less likely to happen.

Plus I use the more expensive white salt, that doesn't even look like there is any grit down once it has melted the ice. I hate the orange cheap stuff.

Not to be pedantic but...

If we're going to be pedantic.

Probably...
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Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2015, 10:45:32 pm »
 ;D
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

paulben

  • Posts: 1041
Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 06:38:09 am »
Looks like salt it is if it warms up enough to work very cold this morning
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Klean07

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Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2015, 09:04:42 am »
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Gerald Ash

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Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 02:55:42 pm »
First of all that is rubbish about if you salt it you`re liable. Yes a court could hold you liable if you are proven to be negligent. If you have salted the paths and warned the home owner you are not negligent.
 Secondly why bother buying expensive salt. I buy the cheap table salt at Lidl plus I always warn that if I clean in these conditions there is a risk of ice forming even with the salt down. If they decide that`s ok then I clean.
  It`s not that difficult really, there is an arguments for and against salting but in my opinion if you carry some salt and offer the option you`re more likely to work that day. 

Tom White

Re: do you salt after wfp
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 03:49:33 pm »
We salt before we start; it can be so cold that the water freezes before you get a chance to get the salt on it.  We just salt the obvious places.

We did a large commercial place this morning; which has a lot of people in and out; I couldn't imagine not salting that.  We'd cause an accident.