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chris scott

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2015, 08:28:00 am »
Oh I see - that sort of problem that only certain members could help with - and it has been mentioned on here that our Christine has a very small member  ;)
It's big enough to make your eyes water if you sat on it. :o
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Re: " I can do that
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2015, 08:36:26 am »
The man states he has a lot of pressure washing work....Why not?

He does not know how to price it...fair enough.

I know a man who is/was washing large supermarkets all over the Uk...He was a window clean who said ...'yes I can do that for you" .   ;D

As for pricing ...too many variables to give a price at this stage. Travel,type of surface,drainage,machine running costs ...I don't need to tell you ,we are all aware of these things. I learnt these skills by the mistakes I made early on ..thats not to say I don't make them still just a little less often.
Good luck with your pricing (See nice and positive :)) ... If someone quotes £500 to clean two sides of a building (Other post) you will need more than luck  ;D ... is that slightly negative ? No, I would just say it's being realistic.

chris scott

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Re: " I can do that
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2015, 10:09:27 am »
The man states he has a lot of pressure washing work....Why not?

He does not know how to price it...fair enough.

I know a man who is/was washing large supermarkets all over the Uk...He was a window clean who said ...'yes I can do that for you" .   ;D

As for pricing ...too many variables to give a price at this stage. Travel,type of surface,drainage,machine running costs ...I don't need to tell you ,we are all aware of these things. I learnt these skills by the mistakes I made early on ..thats not to say I don't make them still just a little less often.
Good luck with your pricing (See nice and positive :)) ... If someone quotes £500 to clean two sides of a building (Other post) you will need more than luck  ;D ... is that slightly negative ? No, I would just say it's being realistic.
Mike I do agree with you. Personally I would think £500 is not enough...but it's not my job.
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Matt.

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2015, 09:10:24 am »
Omg it seems I am the topic,

Right let's sort this out fot the none believers.  

That job on other post is 500 labour or a day and a half, if it was on my door, and read it before you comment, based on all work being done off the scaffolding and at hand high, I noticed you missed that bit out,
or £1500 with a cherry picker. Read last post on it or shut up. Or go find yourself a £50 drive way to clean, it may give you sutton to do and lead to next doors wheelie bin being done regular. "Big job for you".

For all the "gangsters, big bad boys or so called ????? that questioning me on this post please mind your own business, or just ask me the question. Whoever mentioned it, yes I haven't a clue about pressure washing prices but I have a lot of commercial window cleaning and a lot of these customers want me to do more for them, I had a job done in the summer by a guy who I paid £480 to and I charged the customer £1000, I was happy the other lad was happy and my customer told me I needed to charge more.
Point being, I don't have a per Metre or wasn't 100% sure on how it worked.

Now think about this before you write bull ????

I have customers who regularly ask me to pressure wash for them

So far so good you keeping up ??

In the past I have said to them to use other companies who could do this work for them or they will have to wait til I can fit them in, ( still with me ) ? This is becoming a regular thing and I have been putting off for some time now ( you still there ), hence the quote " I have lots of pressure washing work waiting to be done "
Any questions ??

However........ Again this is just for the clowns and not everybody.

Same customer is pushing for me to do work I have now told them it's approx £2 per metre, give or take, and approx 10,000 metres............ You see where am coming from, there reply was........ No probs just get it started, and can you do all the gutters and cladding to all buildings while you are there, so I asked do you have a budget for this particular site, they replied no...... It is what it is.

So mike and whoever has an opinion on me, please guys keep it to yourself, I don't come on here and try to make out to others that I have more than I say I just ask for advise and try to return it if possible

I know it's coz am just a window cleaner and can pull better jobs in than you guys, who are specialist, with  all the know how and equipment, but don't be jealous there's work there for us all.

Now please, I have to get back to work, also another pressure washing job wants done haha

Modified quote at 12.50

I quoted on another page the other day that I cleaned some cladding for free, as part of a deal to get the contract cleaning, everyone's a winner just got the contract

Always happy to help

chris scott

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2015, 04:15:39 pm »
10,000 metres of block….thats more than I clean in a year.  ;D
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Matt.

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2015, 05:27:59 pm »
Not all block Chris but most is there is 2000m of normal square flags but haven't gone right round yet.
1 section of blocks is 3m wide by 1500m long am I right in saying this is 4500m, it is also in a bit of a bad way, plus how do I measure and add up the cubs around carparks. Would 10 curbs = 1 sq metre.

Am a little scared to ask tbh

chris scott

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2015, 06:36:32 pm »
3 x 1500=4500 sqm
10 kerbs at 1 m long would be ok at equalling 1 sgm…. If it edges the block.
If it edges raised beds or traffic islands etc 4/5 kerbs per 1sqm.

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Kev Martin

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2015, 08:05:02 pm »
If it helps I charge for linear metres on kerbs, copings and stairs at M2 prices end of
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Matt.

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2015, 08:10:35 pm »
Thanks guys I appreciate any help I can get

Re: measuring up
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2015, 06:58:06 am »
Matty, not going to bother responding to the essay as it would be pointless.

Not that you will listen to me  :)
But there is little point others on here giving you prices, you need to work them out for yourself.

Only you know your overheads, staff, vans, machine's you will be using meterage per shift, profits you require, plus more importantly prices vary so much depending on location.

As Lee, can confirm we recently priced a large area, the price we submitted was based on us procuring extra kit etc
Our price was similar to two other quotations , excepted price was less than half what we all quoted !   

Matt Gibson

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2015, 08:17:11 am »
Agree with Mike. I quickly found that pricing per M2, you either get shafted (unless its a straight forward driveway, easy water access and great drainage) or it works out too expensive.

Get to know how much it cost you to run per hour/day, work out how much you can get done per hour/day and price accordingly.

chris scott

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2015, 10:35:56 am »
He has won the work….he is not tendering for it.

Straight forward clean with no moss just surface dirt (high foot fall), plenty of water points and drainage

Agreed with client  at 10,000 sqm at £2 per sqm  

Nice first job Matty!!! Welcome to pressure washing. ;D
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Matt.

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2015, 01:36:42 pm »
To whom it may concern. I was well pi$$ed off when I read wot had been said regarding other post I simply gave a labour charge and those who quote a section of it and not all tried to make me sound like a bit of a dick.

I have no bother with anyone and appreciate any help offered I simply asked chris because I knew he was local and he had answered and helped me in the past on a previous post.  

If I came across out of terms, then yes I am first to apologise but I have never priced anything like this up, and has chris just mentioned above they gave me the job and told me not to do it for to cheap as they felt I didn't charge enough for the job in August.

So if we go back to the top I was only asking for help and as I asked chris first, this has nothing to do with anything and there's no funny business going on between us, he's just a nice guy who rang me and advised me. That's it. If any one else can or is prepared to help then I am very grateful.

Matt

Now am doing the window clean for today's FA cup against Bolton and have to get back to work.

Have a nice day - friends

Matt

Re: measuring up
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2015, 04:31:29 pm »
To whom it may concern. I was well pi$$ed off when I read wot had been said regarding other post I simply gave a labour charge and those who quote a section of it and not all tried to make me sound like a bit of a dick.


Matt,
that's be clear it was myself that quoted the £500 figure, why I quoted it is that I find the figure amazing, to clean both sides of the building, windows, upvc rendering we would want at least 2 days per side so that's say a week, we would not let one guy do it on his own as its working at height, so that's 2 guys for a week using the scafolding. So we would be looking at absolute min £1800+vat without boom, with boom at least another £500 + vat.

About a year ago on the window section there was a post 'can you give me a price for this' from a local window cleaner, basically it was a large unit we had priced up, some guys quoted as little as £250 !
We priced it at just short of £5K, we won the job. I am not trying to say look how great we are, its just to show how much prices can vary.

If I upset you with the post I apologise  ;) Good luck to you with the pressure washing, you are obviously in a unique position,
I am certainly not jealous, as you stated earlier there is plenty of work around.

Let us now please move on  :)

time for a beer
  ;D Mike




trevor perry

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2015, 05:21:04 pm »
He has won the work….he is not tendering for it.

Straight forward clean with no moss just surface dirt (high foot fall), plenty of water points and drainage

Agreed with client  at 10,000 sqm at £2 per sqm  

Nice first job Matty!!! Welcome to pressure washing. ;D

That's a great price many would do a big area like that for about half that amount, well done
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Matt.

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2015, 09:50:53 pm »
Very much mike I didn't mean no offence, just sat down and opened a bottle of cobra.

Cheers. 🍻

I was / am very lucky with this job I know and I would do this job for  £1 per sq meter, am most certainly not a greedy guy. If that is the right price I just suggested to them £2 and they said it is wot it is. No questions asked.

chris scott

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2015, 08:28:15 am »
Matty

1)If you have machines to do the job they will not be the high flow ones (30lpm) that "professional"  car park cleaners have.
2)You will be slower than those that do this as their main source of income.
3)If you don't have equipment you will have to buy or rent some…this is an additional cost you need to cover.

Stick with the £2per sqm….you can always reduce the end bill .
This way you will not lose money (many work for nothing because they have cut the price to obtain big contracts)
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trevor perry

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2015, 09:13:27 am »
Matty

1)If you have machines to do the job they will not be the high flow ones (30lpm) that "professional"  car park cleaners have.
2)You will be slower than those that do this as their main source of income.
3)If you don't have equipment you will have to buy or rent some…this is an additional cost you need to cover.

Stick with the £2per sqm….you can always reduce the end bill .
This way you will not lose money (many work for nothing because they have cut the price to obtain big contracts)


 I agree stick to £2 if you can get it but on an area of that size you are not working for nothing at £1 a metre
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Mike Halliday

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2015, 10:38:32 am »
Just out of interest how long will this £20k job take to do?

The problem I would have with a job this size is putting all my other work on hold while I do it
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BDCS

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Re: measuring up
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2015, 12:16:12 pm »
I allow 10 shifts for 6k m2 with heavy gum. 21 ltr main with a 15 ltr on gum