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neiljoust

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #260 on: January 24, 2015, 11:19:53 am »
Go vision , this with hot water is unreal

Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #261 on: January 24, 2015, 11:32:48 am »
Just total BS?
Hummer, do you know that there are three types of people in the world today, people that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what the heck has happened, if you had the choice would you prefer to  make watch or wonder what happens.  for someone to introduce a new method or concept in cleaning its not just for the chosen few but for the few who choose.   and there is no BS in those facts.

There Endeth today's sermon.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #262 on: January 24, 2015, 02:40:53 pm »
Just total BS?
Hummer, do you know that there are three types of people in the world today, people that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what the heck has happened, if you had the choice would you prefer to  make watch or wonder what happens.  for someone to introduce a new method or concept in cleaning its not just for the chosen few but for the few who choose.   and there is no BS in those facts.

There Endeth today's sermon.
Amen.

kempy

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #263 on: January 24, 2015, 05:25:15 pm »
Pleased for you Neil ...

I worked today and it was a joy to see the results on the glass today , especially with the sun shining straight on them .

CleanClear

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #264 on: January 24, 2015, 08:44:37 pm »
Just total BS?
Hummer, do you know that there are three types of people in the world today, people that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what the heck has happened, if you had the choice would you prefer to  make watch or wonder what happens.  for someone to introduce a new method or concept in cleaning its not just for the chosen few but for the few who choose.   and there is no BS in those facts.

In general i detest motivational statements. They don't work in general and they're very one sided in favour of the statement maker and designed to make the reciever of the statement comply with the motivational idea. I'm an optomist not a pressemist, so you'd think i'd like motivational statements? But here's why i don't like them......
 If someone is so motivational then go and sell Bently cars in a poor Council estate and target them see how you get on ? There'll be no peer pressure there. Then try sell them in Alderley Edge (where there is peer pressure), and money. Of course these statements are targetted too.
 And of course at its very basic level a need actually needs no more need than its basic neccesisty. These motivational statements create an artificial need, when there really is no need. Hence the concept of marketting.
 No one here needs to be sold the concept, or marketted "electricity", as its something we all need and use. Hence we just look for the cheapest, i'm sure some one will tell you they only sell 100% quality electricity with a guaranteed supply, but you get the jist...
 THis is not aimed at the guys from Vision BTW, who have made no such claims. Its just aimed at the above "motivational" quote.
   Vision either works or it doesn't. I'm happy to give it a try based on what i've read. But please stop this motivational b******s (which is nothing to do with the vision guys). And there's no "amen" to it either, as that implies you believe in some story and thats the end of it. Nothing that is any use to you has a sales man, FACT . Nothing that is any use to you explains itself, FACT. Now can we dispense with this motivational stuff and just stick to the FACTS.
 Right, now back to my whiskey, which no one had to twist my arm up my back for, nor make me feel ashamed for not buying it. Amen...... Oh no, i said thats wrong. Forget "amen"...!!! ~:-)
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Tadgh O Shea

Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #265 on: January 24, 2015, 09:16:06 pm »
Just total BS?
Hummer, do you know that there are three types of people in the world today, people that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what the heck has happened, if you had the choice would you prefer to  make watch or wonder what happens.  for someone to introduce a new method or concept in cleaning its not just for the chosen few but for the few who choose.   and there is no BS in those facts.

In general i detest motivational statements. They don't work in general and they're very one sided in favour of the statement maker and designed to make the reciever of the statement comply with the motivational idea. I'm an optomist not a pressemist, so you'd think i'd like motivational statements? But here's why i don't like them......
 If someone is so motivational then go and sell Bently cars in a poor Council estate and target them see how you get on ? There'll be no peer pressure there. Then try sell them in Alderley Edge (where there is peer pressure), and money. Of course these statements are targetted too.
 And of course at its very basic level a need actually needs no more need than its basic neccesisty. These motivational statements create an artificial need, when there really is no need. Hence the concept of marketting.
 No one here needs to be sold the concept, or marketted "electricity", as its something we all need and use. Hence we just look for the cheapest, i'm sure some one will tell you they only sell 100% quality electricity with a guaranteed supply, but you get the jist...
 THis is not aimed at the guys from Vision BTW, who have made no such claims. Its just aimed at the above "motivational" quote.
   Vision either works or it doesn't. I'm happy to give it a try based on what i've read. But please stop this motivational b******s (which is nothing to do with the vision guys). And there's no "amen" to it either, as that implies you believe in some story and thats the end of it. Nothing that is any use to you has a sales man, FACT . Nothing that is any use to you explains itself, FACT. Now can we dispense with this motivational stuff and just stick to the FACTS.
 Right, now back to my whiskey, which no one had to twist my arm up my back for, nor make me feel ashamed for not buying it. Amen...... Oh no, i said thats wrong. Forget "amen"...!!! ~:-)

Make sure its a Jameson.

CleanClear

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #266 on: January 24, 2015, 09:23:54 pm »
Just total BS?
Hummer, do you know that there are three types of people in the world today, people that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what the heck has happened, if you had the choice would you prefer to  make watch or wonder what happens.  for someone to introduce a new method or concept in cleaning its not just for the chosen few but for the few who choose.   and there is no BS in those facts.

In general i detest motivational statements. They don't work in general and they're very one sided in favour of the statement maker and designed to make the reciever of the statement comply with the motivational idea. I'm an optomist not a pressemist, so you'd think i'd like motivational statements? But here's why i don't like them......
 If someone is so motivational then go and sell Bently cars in a poor Council estate and target them see how you get on ? There'll be no peer pressure there. Then try sell them in Alderley Edge (where there is peer pressure), and money. Of course these statements are targetted too.
 And of course at its very basic level a need actually needs no more need than its basic neccesisty. These motivational statements create an artificial need, when there really is no need. Hence the concept of marketting.
 No one here needs to be sold the concept, or marketted "electricity", as its something we all need and use. Hence we just look for the cheapest, i'm sure some one will tell you they only sell 100% quality electricity with a guaranteed supply, but you get the jist...
 THis is not aimed at the guys from Vision BTW, who have made no such claims. Its just aimed at the above "motivational" quote.
   Vision either works or it doesn't. I'm happy to give it a try based on what i've read. But please stop this motivational b******s (which is nothing to do with the vision guys). And there's no "amen" to it either, as that implies you believe in some story and thats the end of it. Nothing that is any use to you has a sales man, FACT . Nothing that is any use to you explains itself, FACT. Now can we dispense with this motivational stuff and just stick to the FACTS.
 Right, now back to my whiskey, which no one had to twist my arm up my back for, nor make me feel ashamed for not buying it. Amen...... Oh no, i said thats wrong. Forget "amen"...!!! ~:-)

Make sure its a Jameson.
With red, i used to live in West Meath :-)
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kempy

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #267 on: January 24, 2015, 09:47:59 pm »
Well said CleanClear . Sometimes forums can get a tad heated and one sided .
The majority give good advice , have a little bit of banter and that's how it should be .
Every product will have its admirers and also persons will prefere something else .

Each to their own , and gaining good advice and experiences is what makes a forum .

Clever Forum Name

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #268 on: January 24, 2015, 10:02:19 pm »
Wtf is all this jibberish lol

Window Lickers

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #269 on: January 24, 2015, 10:44:21 pm »
Wtf is all this jibberish lol

I think they're w@nkersed.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

CleanClear

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #270 on: January 25, 2015, 12:41:55 am »
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CleanClear

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #271 on: January 25, 2015, 12:42:48 am »
Wtf is all this jibberish lol

I think they're w@nkersed.

You're thinking stands you in good stead. Insight, thats what i love !! :-)
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Window Lickers

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #272 on: January 25, 2015, 01:02:53 am »
Hey another one without a personality ;)
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.