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Bungle

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2015, 03:23:40 pm »
Both pure h20 and Jk999 have admitted to being product testers are you saying they paid for this
privilege ?

 ???

Pure h20 has not been sent anything as of yet. He paid for his bottle of vision, and if jk999 is who I think he is then he works in the same area as kempy, they got talking and he was given a few millilitres of mix to dose up 1 tank. Since then he has bought 3 bottles atleast.

Hardly free samples Sean.

In all honestly I think your more involved with this project than any of us are. The amount of time you devout to vision is amazing considering it's apparently all a April fool.

As I keep saying though everyone is entitled to their opinions, vision is there for all those who like using it, and if you don't, then we have made it as cheap as we can so that you feel like you have wasted money.


The April fool wasn't my remark, I just agreed why some would think it.
The product testers came from guys explaining why they had been using Vision before it was on sale, PureH20 was one of these
guys as was Jk999.


I think your wrong, but ok.

Pure h20 bought his bottle of vision a week or so after the release date, so there is no way he was using vision any earlier. Jk999 (if he is who I think he is) did use vision earlier than most, but it wasn't by much. A month tops, and he still paid for his. No freebies were given. 

Can one of the directors of Vision answer my question I posted on the previous page please.
We look at them, they look through them.

Jonny 87

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2015, 03:31:13 pm »
I'm not a director but I will answer?

Sorry I missed your question?

The best way is to email me direct at shop@jigsaw-innovations.co.uk

Ask away though and I will look at for your question here.

Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Bungle

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2015, 03:42:04 pm »
I'm not a director but I will answer?

Sorry I missed your question?

The best way is to email me direct at shop@jigsaw-innovations.co.uk

Ask away though and I will look at for your question here.



Does Vision make hydrophobic glass more hydrophilic, or is it a myth? Not noticed a change so far.
We look at them, they look through them.

Jonny 87

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2015, 03:50:00 pm »
I'm not a director but I will answer?

Sorry I missed your question?

The best way is to email me direct at shop@jigsaw-innovations.co.uk

Ask away though and I will look at for your question here.



Does Vision make hydrophobic glass more hydrophilic, or is it a myth? Not noticed a change so far.

It can make some glass more hydrophillic, but this is usually noticed on the third of fourth visit to a property. In the mean time though It gives the glass a deeper clean which means your rinsing time should be decreased, which achieves a similar result.

Some windows that I now clean have started showing hydrophillic properties, even though they were very hydrophobic before hand.

The main benefit though is the cleaning power, and for me that is the most valuable part, this should increase your working speed once you are used to having vision in your water.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

kempy

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2015, 04:26:18 pm »
Some windows I'm cleaning have turned to Hydrophillic more . This is approximately 12 months of use .
Require Patience.
But some windows are still not improving .
Some will , some won't I guess

paulben

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #105 on: January 15, 2015, 04:44:07 pm »
 Cleaning patio doors then noticed cat paw prints on glass and plastic cill , cat had the paint you paint fences with , dipped cill cloth in bucket that has Vision in rubbed glass and cill and paint was gone .I never had a free sample but well worth the money will be ordering some more soon.
Do not steal the government hates competition

dazmond

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #106 on: January 15, 2015, 04:53:57 pm »
The main benefit from this product seems to be the shine on the windows.
To be honest why the heck would I care if the windows shine more, in 8 years of using wfp I don't  recall a single customer complaining that the windows weren't shiny enough.

because some of us take pride in our work and a better shine adds to that feeling IMO.

ive also noticed when i clean a white or brown UPVC door with wfp with vision it really does make them sparkle more!adds a little bit more satisfaction to my work. :)
price higher/work harder!

Mike #1

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #107 on: January 15, 2015, 05:10:18 pm »
90% of the people that have used vizion are free samplers....

they give people free samples for the good reviews...because lets face it everyone loves something for free right?

for the people that are adding this to there tanks and making therselves believe it works.... idiots.




I paid for mine thanks , I could call you a simple T**t but I don't know you at all so their for could not make an intelligent informed decision about the person that you are . :P :P :-*

Dave Willis

Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #108 on: January 15, 2015, 05:23:49 pm »
The main benefit from this product seems to be the shine on the windows.
To be honest why the heck would I care if the windows shine more, in 8 years of using wfp I don't  recall a single customer complaining that the windows weren't shiny enough.

because some of us take pride in our work and a better shine adds to that feeling IMO.

ive also noticed when i clean a white or brown UPVC door with wfp with vision it really does make them sparkle more!adds a little bit more satisfaction to my work. :)

Dazmond, now you're swinging the other way shouldn't you edit the title of the thread  ???

Mike #1

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #109 on: January 15, 2015, 05:46:52 pm »
Swinging  :o , I'll stick to window cleaning  :P ;D

davids3511

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #110 on: January 15, 2015, 06:24:33 pm »
Explain  why I'm doing them more harm than good because  the way I see it you and all your mates are the ones doing them harm as your all slating  a product  you haven't  even tried
I'm happy to take a free sample and report back my unbiased findings. Would appreciate you organising that for me. Cheers.

dazmond

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #111 on: January 15, 2015, 06:34:26 pm »
always wanting something for free eh?

just buy some and try it if you want!if not dont bother.

its just under £19(inclu p&p) FOR GODS SAKE! ::)roll

its hardly gonna break the bank! ;D
price higher/work harder!

kempy

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #112 on: January 15, 2015, 07:56:20 pm »
90% of the people that have used vizion are free samplers....

they give people free samples for the good reviews...because lets face it everyone loves something for free right?

for the people that are adding this to there tanks and making therselves believe it works.... idiots.




I paid for mine thanks , I could call you a simple T**t but I don't know you at all so their for could not make an intelligent informed decision about the person that you are . :P :P :-*

Honestly guys , on my Kids lives we only sent out free samples to a few persons .
I haven't sent any out .
Kevin sent all the free samples out , think there were just a few that voluntereed . And maybe a few more elsewhere . We had to source independant testers and honest ones to see if the product was liked .
ALEX Gardiner bought a bottle at full price . If we were going to try and bribe persons or butter them up , then ALEX would of been a perfect person to donate a bottle to .
But ALEX bought through the same way as the majority have .

So to put another false claim to bed , we simply haven't sent out many free samples .
It would be unfair after the product was launched .

chris turner

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #113 on: January 15, 2015, 08:20:30 pm »
I'd be interested to hear Alex gardiners opinion on vision...

Clever Forum Name

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #114 on: January 15, 2015, 08:24:51 pm »
Both pure h20 and Jk999 have admitted to being product testers are you saying they paid for this
privilege ?

When have I ever said I have been a product tester? I found out about this product ON CIU no where else. I have been asked if I would test future products AFTER I purchased a bottle.  

I paid full price for one bottle. My dad has been using some as well from the one and only bottle I have purchased.

Get your facts straight please.

I can only assume you smoke crack for the constant drivel you post. I put some poop on here but f*** me you take the biscuit.

duncan h

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #115 on: January 15, 2015, 08:25:45 pm »
I'd be interested to hear Alex gardiners opinion on vision...
WHY? we clean windows for a living. Alex sells us the parts  ;D

Smudger

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #116 on: January 15, 2015, 08:36:34 pm »
I'd be interested to hear Alex gardiners opinion on vision...
WHY? we clean windows for a living. Alex sells us the parts  ;D

Alex still cleans windows.....

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

kempy

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #117 on: January 15, 2015, 08:41:38 pm »
Explain  why I'm doing them more harm than good because  the way I see it you and all your mates are the ones doing them harm as your all slating  a product  you haven't  even tried
I'm happy to take a free sample and report back my unbiased findings. Would appreciate you organising that for me. Cheers.

We only sent out a few samples to testers in Oct / Nov 2014 . Then we started selling the product in December .
We don't really need to send out any more samples for persons to review .
The Vision has probably had over 10,000 posts , I think that's enough .
Unfortunately 9000 of them have been from SeanK

Sorry SeanK  ;D just banter

kempy

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #118 on: January 15, 2015, 08:42:54 pm »
And it's only £19 for about 6 weeks supply

Clever Forum Name

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Re: VISION!more cons than pros?
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2015, 08:55:35 pm »
And it's only £19 for about 6 weeks supply

Don't say that. The £500 a day crew will be complaining.