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8weekly

Neck injuries
« on: January 04, 2015, 05:56:43 pm »
About two months ago I started getting quite severe vertigo. I self diagnosed with Dr Google a case of Labyrinthitis. Anyway, it went away for a couple of weeks but then returned a couple of weeks later. Unconnected (I thought) I had been having some pains in the neck and a constant need to stretch it from side to side.

Just before Christmas I went to the doctors and without me mentioning any neck pain he diagnosed that the neck was causing the vertigo.

I've had two weeks off other than a large commercial job yesterday with two of us, me doing the insides and the dizziness has gone but the neck still isn't right. I have bought a Neckprotech which I intend to use regardless of how daft it looks, but i wondered if anyone else had had neck issues from WFP?




Frankybadboy

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 06:20:44 pm »
get your self to a good osteopath asap and your wonder why you never went sooner

matthewprice

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 06:59:32 pm »
I tried the neck protector and found it kind of made it worse to be honest .helped when I bought a bit longer pole and stood back a bit .and found it took pressure of my neck.

8weekly

Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2015, 08:08:42 pm »
Yep. Good point Frankie. Will sort that tomorrow.

PoleKing

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 09:00:24 pm »
get your self to a good osteopath asap and your wonder why you never went sooner

My opinion-an osteopath would be good but try a Bowens course first.
Bin the neck protector. And work your shoulders in the gym, properly.
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DaveG

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2015, 09:07:13 pm »
My advice would be not to see an osteopath until you have seen your doctor. 

I went to see one and he has caused me all sorts of problems and 6 months later I'm still getting pain. The hospital physio said they shouldn't of gave me any treatment without an xray. 

I'm seeing a bowen practitioner in the next couple of weeks to see if they can help. .
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8weekly

Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2015, 09:07:52 pm »
In my opinion it's postural. As soon as I assume my normal posture for WFP I feel the neck is wrong. If I try to work left handed I get immediate relief but because of a neurological issue I have poor left side coordination and it doesn't work. Standing back doesn't help it seems - at least not now.

PoleKing

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 09:22:42 pm »
My advice would be not to see an osteopath until you have seen your doctor. 

I went to see one and he has caused me all sorts of problems and 6 months later I'm still getting pain. The hospital physio said they shouldn't of gave me any treatment without an xray. 

I'm seeing a bowen practitioner in the next couple of weeks to see if they can help. .

Would you keep us posted on the Bowens please, Dave?
I'm sure a lot of lads would benefit from it.
Personally I don't suffer but that doesn't mean I won't in the future.
The higher the work the more ag.
I've only heard good things about Bowens though.
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Don Kee

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 09:24:59 pm »
I know you cant do it for every window, but try extending your pole more so your looking more forward than up
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Rob.Hall

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 09:44:15 pm »
Extending the pole helps a lot.
Hope you get sorted soon.

Dave Willis

Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2015, 09:52:40 pm »
Bowens  ::)roll

I had that once - what a joke.

dazmond

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2015, 09:58:47 pm »
i suffer with a stiff neck sometimes even using extreme poles and brushes.usually when cleaning f/s/g add on jobs.

whats helped me is taking cod liver oil and glucosamine capsules every day.

gym(weight training) and light yoga exercises.

taking a few days off at the end of the month and not cramming in too much work into my working days.

price higher/work harder!

PoleKing

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2015, 10:01:36 pm »
Bowens  ::)roll

I had that once - what a joke.

Once.

That'll be the problem Dave. It's a course.
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Dave Willis

Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2015, 10:19:36 pm »
Honestly it was a joke - I reckon the cat gets a deeper treatment than that when it's stroked. It's crap!
See a physio - someone who understands skeletal problems and pain - not a self taught witch doctor.

I came off a Jet Ski at speed - young lad behind me flew out to the side hanging on to my buoyancy aid = twisted my spine. We just so happened to be holidaying with a chap who practised the Bowen technique so I didn't have to pay. It was utter rollocks. I've had them all Chiropractors (all do the same basic move). Accupuncture, Oesteopaths (helped my wallet to diet) and Physiotherapy. Physio was the best by far (I picked a good one) still see her every six weeks for the last ten years. None are miracle cures.

CleanClear

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2015, 10:52:12 pm »
In my opinion it's postural. As soon as I assume my normal posture for WFP I feel the neck is wrong. If I try to work left handed I get immediate relief but because of a neurological issue I have poor left side coordination and it doesn't work. Standing back doesn't help it seems - at least not now.

So how is a neck protect going to help you ? As an aside..........you remember all them neck braces you used to see from people with whiplash after car accidents, or even work related accidents. You don't see them any more. The reason is they don't recommend them anymore. I can understand the logic, your necks not broke, why would you need a brace of some sort. IMO same goes for a neckprotect. You really need a gadget to stop you from doing what you can do ?

If your answer is "yes", then not only will you have self medicated, you will have self diagnosed your problem. And that would be caused by looking up to high ? I'd seriously doubt thats the cause myself.

If i recall correct you're over 50 years of age? I think you'll find your problems are just age related. You will simply need to work a bit harder (as in exercise not WORK) to keep your neck and back in shape. Thats my experience anyway.
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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2015, 11:02:42 pm »
My advice would be not to see an osteopath until you have seen your doctor.  

I went to see one and he has caused me all sorts of problems and 6 months later I'm still getting pain. The hospital physio said they shouldn't of gave me any treatment without an xray.  

I'm seeing a bowen practitioner in the next couple of weeks to see if they can help. .

My missus is qualified Bowen, she swears by it.

You'll be surprised how little they do but how effective it can be. Some of it can be quite painful but she's sorted out some of my ailments.
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8weekly

Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2015, 11:14:58 pm »
In my opinion it's postural. As soon as I assume my normal posture for WFP I feel the neck is wrong. If I try to work left handed I get immediate relief but because of a neurological issue I have poor left side coordination and it doesn't work. Standing back doesn't help it seems - at least not now.

So how is a neck protect going to help you ? As an aside..........you remember all them neck braces you used to see from people with whiplash after car accidents, or even work related accidents. You don't see them any more. The reason is they don't recommend them anymore. I can understand the logic, your necks not broke, why would you need a brace of some sort. IMO same goes for a neckprotect. You really need a gadget to stop you from doing what you can do ?

If your answer is "yes", then not only will you have self medicated, you will have self diagnosed your problem. And that would be caused by looking up to high ? I'd seriously doubt thats the cause myself.

If i recall correct you're over 50 years of age? I think you'll find your problems are just age related. You will simply need to work a bit harder (as in exercise not WORK) to keep your neck and back in shape. Thats my experience anyway.
It was the GP that diagnosed the problem, but I see what you mean.

Having tried the Neckprotech, what it does is force you to use your upper body to look up rather than just the neck. It seems a good idea.

KS Cleaning

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2015, 11:32:55 pm »
Get an appointment with a physio, he/she will be able to give you a sheet of exercises which if followed should help. I get problems with impingement in my shoulder, when I get lazy and don't do the exercises I was given, it starts to bother me again.

CleanClear

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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2015, 05:10:35 pm »

It was the GP that diagnosed the problem, but I see what you mean.

Having tried the Neckprotech, what it does is force you to use your upper body to look up rather than just the neck. It seems a good idea.

Ah right, ok i never realised you'd been to the Docs. I was fortunate when i went the Docs over a bad back, he had an Osteopath that came round once a week and booked me in with him, that sorted me out. A series of simple excercises sorted it, i was convinced it was knackered as i couldn't even put my socks on !!  ;D

Have a look at "Epley's manoeuvre" if you're experiencing vertigo. It seems simple enough.

I'm not convinced by the neckprotects, mainly because as i say current medical advice goes against the use of these neck restraints. And looking up would be a normal body movement. Wheras tilting your body back to look seems unatural to me ? Could give you back problems ? But if its working for you then good luck with it.
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Re: Neck injuries
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2015, 05:42:50 pm »
I would also suggest seeing a physiotherapist as you will be shown and given information on the correct exercises to do to aid your recuperation which should speed up recovery.
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