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Matt Gibson

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chemical sprayers
« on: December 21, 2014, 04:42:32 pm »
Looking at getting some kind of set up to make spraying large amount of chems easier. Just did a large new build clean and have done a few in the past and its a pain having to fill up a 5L hand pump sprayer all the time. Looking at getting one of those ATV sprayers/tanks that the farmers use on the back of their 4 wheelers. Northstar make one with a 12v 10lpm pump and 100L tank with lance etc for about £160 but seems hard to get parts.

Any other ideas for around £150 - £200 mark?

Wouldnt be using it all the time hence not wanting to spend alot on a petrol engine etc.

Smudger

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2014, 04:52:25 pm »
I got an x-jet, just plug it into the end of the lance and away you go, I have a little trolley that carries the 20 ltr drum of hypo which I pull behind me.

Did a 250 m2 brick weave  drive in around 5mins and a godsend for roof cleans

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Matt Gibson

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2014, 05:17:25 pm »
Ive looked at the xjet but i wouldnt want to be spraying hypo around like that or be on a building site spraying acid through it. Need something with a bit less grunt and more controllable.

I think the xjets would be perfect for cladding though, and as you say, driveways.

Smudger

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 06:02:33 pm »
They are very controllable, I drop the revs if needed

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris scott

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 06:31:44 pm »
Way over budget but you can get all the parts for them.
You will only have to buy once . I have a couple already built if you want to borrow one if you have a "one off" job.

http://www.allpumpsdirect.co.uk/Comet-MC18-2-Diaphragm-Pump-6127000400-15-Bar-11.9-Lpm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Gx-160-Engine-/151523066275?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item23477a81a3

These are also worth looking at if the mix ratio's are vital...but I think they only  mix to about 4%. The good thing is you can join to a hose pipe ,set the solution and it mixes as you spray. It compensates for flow and pressure. You have very little waste of your chemical...unlike mixing a set amount in a tank and spraying were you always mix too much or too little.

http://www.dosatron.com

I have one set up for spraying Quats.

or
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pedestrian-Boom-sprayer-lawns-pitches-/201245645426?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Garden_Plants_Fertiliser_CV&hash=item2edb2cda72

You will need a lance and waterfed pole.
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www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
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Smudger

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Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Matt Gibson

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2014, 08:37:58 pm »
Darran,
yeah thats the type i was looking at. Just made by a different company witb a bigger tank.

Chris,
i looked into building one. Thats a cheap engine. Just thinking if im spraying acid all day itll be cheaper just running it off a battery rather than having another petrol engine running all day.

chris scott

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2014, 08:53:33 pm »
It will run all day for £6 ;D...put it on he price of the job. If we work away we struggle with charging batteries etc Premiere Inn won't allow them in the rooms!
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Matt Gibson

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2014, 09:43:24 pm »
Yeah i know what you mean. I can run it off my machine battery for brick cleans as the machine is running at the same time.

Roger Oakley

Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2014, 07:27:36 am »
Matt
I pump a system together a few years ago, Shuflo pump, leisure battery, hose's and lance. cost around £150 I think to build. The pump had Viton seals and handled the caustics we use on decking fine. I got the lance from a company near Manchester, Canadian Pumps.

Kev Martin

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2014, 03:40:07 pm »
Way over budget but you can get all the parts for them.
You will only have to buy once . I have a couple already built if you want to borrow one if you have a "one off" job.

http://www.allpumpsdirect.co.uk/Comet-MC18-2-Diaphragm-Pump-6127000400-15-Bar-11.9-Lpm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Gx-160-Engine-/151523066275?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item23477a81a3

These are also worth looking at if the mix ratio's are vital...but I think they only  mix to about 4%. The good thing is you can join to a hose pipe ,set the solution and it mixes as you spray. It compensates for flow and pressure. You have very little waste of your chemical...unlike mixing a set amount in a tank and spraying were you always mix too much or too little.

http://www.dosatron.com

I have one set up for spraying Quats.

or
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pedestrian-Boom-sprayer-lawns-pitches-/201245645426?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Garden_Plants_Fertiliser_CV&hash=item2edb2cda72

You will need a lance and waterfed pole.

Chris

Thanks for all the help and advice this morning!  Have a Merry Xmas & A Happy New Year and don't let Rob, Lee & Karl get you down too much while I am away!
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Richy L

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2014, 04:02:56 pm »
I have made my own 12v pump box for pumping chems. I havent tried it with acid mind.
It cost me around £35 all in. It just draws the chems from a 25ltr barrel.
If the pump goes bang I will put another £10 pump in. I keep a spare in the van.
So far I have had easily 30 days pumping with it and its still going fine.


Blast Away

Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2014, 04:51:45 pm »

Matt Gibson

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2014, 05:38:34 pm »
I have made my own 12v pump box for pumping chems. I havent tried it with acid mind.
It cost me around £35 all in. It just draws the chems from a 25ltr barrel.
If the pump goes bang I will put another £10 pump in. I keep a spare in the van.
So far I have had easily 30 days pumping with it and its still going fine.

What pump are you using for £10?

Matt Gibson

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2014, 05:39:23 pm »
http://www.agratech.co.uk/

Spot on mate. Thanks for that. Was looking for a place i could buy something and get spares for it.
the IK sprayers on that site are the cheapest ive seen!

Richy L

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Re: chemical sprayers
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2014, 07:49:43 pm »
I have made my own 12v pump box for pumping chems. I havent tried it with acid mind.
It cost me around £35 all in. It just draws the chems from a 25ltr barrel.
If the pump goes bang I will put another £10 pump in. I keep a spare in the van.
So far I have had easily 30 days pumping with it and its still going fine.

What pump are you using for £10?

Something like this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1511041-DC-12V-High-Pressure-Multi-Purpose-Self-priming-Car-Water-Pump-80PSI-/291045807018?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_BoatEquipment_Accessories_SM&hash=item43c3ae93aa

£12 pump
£3 switch
£3 wires and connectors
£17 elec box

I did add a control voltmeter, fuse holder and a flow controller for an extra £12 or so, but after a few weeks I simplified it.
Just battery>switch>pump>battery - easy.