[Dave Willis]

Hi spruce.

Thankyou for your compliments,

There also is a lot of pain involved, trust is a big thing.

Ive even had leading companies employ a mole to buy my pole from me, to check it out!

Not going to say who it is mind, but it is very sad when companies go this low.

With this like the aqua-dapter, we have made sure of patent applications, which is'nt fair that you have to do this when its your product design anyway.

Products like A/D and Tubeless poles are not an overnight project, it takes time, so i wish that other companies would keep there noses out so to speak.

Steven.

Look on the bright side - at least you've sold one

[slap bash]

I do feel any pole could be converted this way. Just move the John Guest fitting at the top of you pole down so that when you close your pole it then stickes out the bottom of you pole.So Basicly you will have a length of pole hose a few inches longer than no 1 section with a restus or a John Guest which you loosen to allow your pole hose to be rolled up.

[mufcglen]

has anyone got a link for the conversion kits as i cant find them on theyre website any more?

He's decided not to sell the conversion kits, so I hear.

yeah he told me on facebook page last night, im gutted as i really feel this system is a great idea and may save me a few minutes over the day but that adds up over time and i like the idea of no pole hose hanging on the side of the van!
ive just bought a couple of new slx poles too otherwise i may have ordered one of these carbon poles to try with this system but i think i may design my own now as it doesnt look too hard to do something with rectus fittings, i presume its only the top pole that you modify to fix a male fitting in and take a wee bit of the end of the pole so when its closed it wont protrude, then its just a case of opening the pole protector on the base.

[steven jonesg]

Hi,

We decided against selling kits.
This is for 3 reasons.
1) we will not advise to diy, if it goes wrong, it would reflect on us.
2) it would void a warranty on a wfp as it requires alteration of your wfp.
3) we prefer to promote out own poles.

Steven.

[Clever Forum Name]

My dads first van was a used wfp setup and it came with some awful poles. It was a tucker poles system. We had an argument on Friday morning as i told him about this idea and thought it would be good. He told me we have a pole in the garage with the same fitting. I didn't believe him, but bugger me i can make out the pole in the garage. Will dig it out, basically its this pole here. It was a beast

http://www.aquafactors.com/wp-content/uploads/Aquafactors_Aspire_pole_head_group_large.jpg

[Arnold Palmer]

I believe that is the Tucker pole that Stephen Fox alluded to.

Nothing new under the sun.

I think Tucker poles had this on their poles about 7 years ago, not really a new idea. Nothing new under the sun....

[Tom White]

Ah, I thought the water somehow magically went through the pole without any hose (I'm a thickie-Geordie), but what actually happens is that the REEL hose attaches to a short piece of hose in the No 1 section, and then when you lengthen the pole, the REEL hose goes up the pole.

Doh! 

[Smudger]

Tosh, not a thickie mate, just a little spin and mis direction from the makers...


Darran

[slap bash]

I think Tucker poles had this on their poles about 7 years ago, not really a new idea. Nothing new under the sun....

Now thats nasty MR FOX its there time to shine.You had your day with the Phoenix rising and all that. Its for the window cleaners not for competition MR FOXY. Climb back in your hole and relax is only a Infomercial. You make such fuss it put me off your pole.

[Arnold Palmer]

I think Tucker poles had this on their poles about 7 years ago, not really a new idea. Nothing new under the sun....

Now thats nasty MR FOX its there time to shine.You had your day with the Phoenix rising and all that. Its for the window cleaners not for competition MR FOXY. Climb back in your hole and relax is only a commercial.

Nowt wrong with a bit of market research..........

[matthewprice]

Was wondering how you stop the connectors being pushed up the no1 section

[Richard ham]

So not really tubeless. Surely thats a trade description error of somesorts, misleading customers to thinking it had no tube!!!!! By selling as tubeless....omg

[slap bash]

You dont. I think its pretty clear how it works. The fittings slide to no.1 section as the pole is extended it when you pack up its tubeless.
THE TUCKER POLE WAS WATER TYTE POLE.

[steven jonesg]

Its tubeless in the sense as there's no hose attached to the pole.
as regards the example of the aqua factor pole is no comparison.
and most companies know this.
aqua factors pole was designed from a car brush.
can you imagine the weight of a 30ft pole filled with water.
I have had a lot of snotty remarks from 4 leading companies so far, but this is to expected when you design a new pole.
so far I have had 10 emails from this forum from members to trial my pole, soon I will decide who to send a pole to for review.

[Arnold Palmer]

aqua factors pole was designed from a car brush.
can you imagine the weight of a 30ft pole filled with water.

Is it?

How do you know that?

 

[steven jonesg]

I typed in aqua factor aspire in Google search.

[Richard ham]

You havent designed a new pole. It looks like the old gardiner ones. You are mistaken about the weight of section one filled with water, the one i have designed only has a 6mm inner diameter, the same as pole hose, just thicker honeycomb carbon on this section. Perhaps this could be a truly tubeless pole:-)

[steven jonesg]

Look to be technical, a pole is a tube, or isn't it.
yours has an honeycomb centre sounds like a crunchy.

[Richard ham]

Think outside the chocolate box!!!

[Arnold Palmer]

I typed in aqua factor aspire in Google search.

So, you investigated - without paying for - a competitors pole?