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tonycarr

  • Posts: 424
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2014, 10:37:39 pm »
will you be selling extensions/ add on sections?


+1
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david mark

  • Posts: 468
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2014, 10:46:41 pm »
What are the clamps like

oldman

  • Posts: 487
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #62 on: December 12, 2014, 09:20:21 am »
Hi spruce.

Thankyou for your compliments,

There also is a lot of pain involved, trust is a big thing.

Ive even had leading companies employ a mole to buy my pole from me, to check it out!

Not going to say who it is mind, but it is very sad when companies go this low.

With this like the aqua-dapter, we have made sure of patent applications, which is'nt fair that you have to do this when its your product design anyway.

Products like A/D and Tubeless poles are not an overnight project, it takes time, so i wish that other companies would keep there noses out so to speak.

Steven.

lol steve you can tell you have only been in business five minutes

having a good friend working one of the top jobs at mclaren every time theres a new top super car out on the market  they buy one  then starts taking them to bits bit by bit to see whats new

there r8s ferraris ,and many more all brand new all just sat in bits in a compound  never to go on the road again its what people do to stay ahead in there field northing new  in the manufacturering game


Always thought technology filtered from F1.

JackieW

  • Posts: 865
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #63 on: December 12, 2014, 09:22:10 am »
It must be me but I still don't understand how this works.
It looks a very good idea.
How does it work inside the pole sections when they are extended and closed?

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2014, 10:19:56 am »
It maybe common practice, but its not moral, but thats me. :)

I don't see how morals come into it. Did you come up with side on clamps on your own? I doubt it. Was it your idea to make them out of carbon fibre? Definitely not. Unless you come up with a completely new original idea you copied most of it from somewhere.

If you are not doing your market research properly how can you expect to compete with those that do?
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Stephen Fox

  • Posts: 471
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2014, 10:43:54 am »
I think Tucker poles had this on their poles about 7 years ago, not really a new idea. Nothing new under the sun....

Lee GLS

  • Posts: 3844
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #66 on: December 12, 2014, 11:35:23 am »
What connector do you recommend using to connect the pole hose to the Microbore with the tubeless setup?

robert mitchell

  • Posts: 1994
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #67 on: December 12, 2014, 11:50:52 am »
It must be me but I still don't understand how this works.
It looks a very good idea.
How does it work inside the pole sections when they are extended and closed?

From what i can work out the top section of pole has a length of pole hose to the brush with a rectus connecter, when pole is collapsed you push the other half of the connector on the pole hose that is on your reel (long enough section on reel for pole which is connected to the microprobe)into the bottom of the pole where it connects to the other side of the rectus .......when you extend the pole it pulls the pole hose that was wound on your reel up the middle of the pole .
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Ian Lancaster

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Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #68 on: December 12, 2014, 12:36:03 pm »
It must be me but I still don't understand how this works.
It looks a very good idea.
How does it work inside the pole sections when they are extended and closed?

From what i can work out the top section of pole has a length of pole hose to the brush with a rectus connecter, when pole is collapsed you push the other half of the connector on the pole hose that is on your reel (long enough section on reel for pole which is connected to the microprobe)into the bottom of the pole where it connects to the other side of the rectus .......when you extend the pole it pulls the pole hose that was wound on your reel up the middle of the pole .

So the bit of connector inside the pole must protrude when the pole is collapsed otherwise  you can't connect/disconnect.  Doesn't this make it vulnerable to damage?

JackieW

  • Posts: 865
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2014, 01:02:12 pm »
I think I get it now  thanks to this vid by mark munro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY92FaiLZo0

The fitting is at the bottom of the smallest diameter pole, ie the top one.
I thought it was fitted to the widest diameter pole, the bottom one and couldn't work out how that worked.

mufcglen

  • Posts: 1507
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2014, 01:21:56 pm »
It must be me but I still don't understand how this works.
It looks a very good idea.
How does it work inside the pole sections when they are extended and closed?

From what i can work out the top section of pole has a length of pole hose to the brush with a rectus connecter, when pole is collapsed you push the other half of the connector on the pole hose that is on your reel (long enough section on reel for pole which is connected to the microprobe)into the bottom of the pole where it connects to the other side of the rectus .......when you extend the pole it pulls the pole hose that was wound on your reel up the middle of the pole .

So the bit of connector inside the pole must protrude when the pole is collapsed otherwise  you can't connect/disconnect.  Doesn't this make it vulnerable to damage?

i dont think it does protrude pal as i remember reading form the main man about the kits for converting other poles where you need to take an inch or two off the base of the top pole so i presume when its closed it wont stick out the bottom!
has anyone got a link for the conversion kits as i cant find them on theyre website any more?

duncan h

  • Posts: 1875
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #71 on: December 12, 2014, 01:27:48 pm »
love those clamps. I think he changed them. Ill check later. Fantastic idea until the rectus packs in. You wont get a spare one for back up

robert mitchell

  • Posts: 1994
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #72 on: December 12, 2014, 02:45:34 pm »
The rectus 26 last very well though , mine is almost worn down to a barrel shape and is still working ......gets dragged along the floor and been on a year .

inside a cover like it is on the exceed pole it should last ages.

I would be tempted but i work with a pole tap on the hose.
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The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #73 on: December 12, 2014, 03:43:04 pm »
Thanks for posting the link to that video.

Very exciting indeed. Looks like Mark M has got a super light brush with hybrid bristles. That will be a good brush!

Pole looks ok.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2014, 05:32:49 pm »
Hi spruce.

Thankyou for your compliments,

There also is a lot of pain involved, trust is a big thing.

Ive even had leading companies employ a mole to buy my pole from me, to check it out!

Not going to say who it is mind, but it is very sad when companies go this low.

With this like the aqua-dapter, we have made sure of patent applications, which is'nt fair that you have to do this when its your product design anyway.

Products like A/D and Tubeless poles are not an overnight project, it takes time, so i wish that other companies would keep there noses out so to speak.

Steven.

lol steve you can tell you have only been in business five minutes

having a good friend working one of the top jobs at mclaren every time theres a new top super car out on the market  they buy one  then starts taking them to bits bit by bit to see whats new

there r8s ferraris ,and many more all brand new all just sat in bits in a compound  never to go on the road again its what people do to stay ahead in there field northing new  in the manufacturering game


Always thought technology filtered from F1.

it does but with a small market like the super car market,  one little change could make the car a good one or a bad one that's why they all watch what each others doing .

when wfp first came out there were only two poles now theres many all ripped off from each other

there now made better and cheaper ending in use all having lighter and better poles at cheaper prices , again good for us all if there was just one pole on the market and you could only get it from one place I hate to think what the price would be of it ..


Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2014, 09:34:09 pm »
love those clamps. I think he changed them. Ill check later. Fantastic idea until the rectus packs in. You wont get a spare one for back up
duncan, we have designed the fitting be changed very easily, so there is no need to worry about this, as regards the clamps, a comment from lee martin at bladeright cleaning supplies today was it is better than any pole he had seen, it has taken along time to get it to this point with lots of criticism from other companies, but it is here at last.

Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2014, 09:37:24 pm »
What connector do you recommend using to connect the pole hose to the Microbore with the tubeless setup?
Hi lee,
An  8 to 6 mm barbed fitting.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2014, 10:17:09 pm »
Good luck with the new poles Steven, they look good. I work with a backpack so not so sure they would be of any benefit to me as they look more suited to be used with hose reels, but good luck anyway ;)

duncan h

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Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2014, 10:43:16 pm »
Yes clamps are totally different to prototype. Now they are more like Gardiner clamps. Same, I loved the flush look

oldman

  • Posts: 487
Re: Ex ceed poles
« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2014, 08:58:05 am »
has anyone got a link for the conversion kits as i cant find them on theyre website any more?

He's decided not to sell the conversion kits, so I hear.