[Dave Willis]

You still haven't addressed the fundamental flaw in this - where are the customers? How quick can you provide work?

And not being funny why not lose a hell of a lot of weight and improve your chances of staying fit and working longer?

[Window Lickers]

Well, there's a thing - I guess thats the end of the thread then 

[Dave Willis]

Unusual for me but honestly not taking the pee this time.

[Gerald Ash]

I`ve lost twenty stone already and it`s coming off slowly. I am 6`3" and underneath the fat there is some muscle so it`s not quite as bad as it sounds but yes I do need to lose another ten stone. The customers will be found. There`s a lot of new estates being built around here. The plan is next year but that`s not written in stone, it will be started when it has the best chance to sustain itself.
  If I`m wrong then it won`t work but surely it`s worth a try. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
  I love working the windows, meeting people and to add I do not take work from others. There`s loads of work out there to be had and I walk about three miles a day finding it.

[Positivity]

Gerald are you the really big guy who said he had to do WFP because he was too big to climb a ladder, had a spread in the local paper after setting up from unemployment?
That was about 18 months ago as I recall.
You have done really well if you now have enough work to start employing.
Fast mover.

[andyM]

I predict Cash flow as being a potential problem.

[Griffus]

Gerald, go ahead with this pie in the sky and you're about to lose at least a bit of optimism, at worst a lot more.

Seriously, go back to the drawing board.   If you have anything about you then rerun your plan (though I suspect this should read 'run your plan' as I doubt you've actually thought this through).   Be more realistic.

If I had nothing better to do I could show you beyond doubt this will fail, but this is your problem to sort.


As said, you are 100% destined to fail, do yourself a favour.   I'd go as far as to say you'll not even get up and running.


The cynic in me suspects this is a wind up, but I worry for you that it's not................

[Griffus]

I predict Cash flow as being a potential problem.

lol, you may be right.   You may also be missing a few other 'issues'............

[TomCrowther]

With this financial model, you won't earn enough to replace the van in three/four years time. It is completely flawed.

[KS Cleaning]

Go to a bank with this business plan, see if they would be willing to financially back your plan.....Sorry but they probably wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.

[andyM]

doing it your way would make it easier for a rouge employee to nick all of your customers IMHO

Yeah but the red cheeks would give them away, so would be easy to spot. 

[windowswashed]

Everyone is pointing out the financial problems you'll face with your plan but the other thing to consider is you'll being coping with the extra wages, employee and expense problems, dealing with extra customers, extra monies coming in and the lack of work should we have severe flooding or the country grinds to a halt because of snow storms like in the past Also the mental headache of being extra organised dealing and staying on top of everything, got to put aside for unforeseen hassles and need to make it worth your trouble for the headache of building turnover not profit. Good luck, rather you than me. Done it three times, don't wish to do it again, like an easy life with profit and minimal hassle.

[Deangsi]

Stick to working on your own mate  iv had people working in the past cant be bothered anymore alot of hassle

[Gerald Ash]

Pie I the sky, we'll you may all be right. I am planning to start when my own work can safely sustain another persons wage and enough to live on myself which at present is £25 per day and I live happily on that. I have put this in much more detail to my accountant and at first he thought I was mad but when he went through the idea and figures he admitted that it would work as long as I found the right person and as said we don't have six foot of snow for three months. I have a budget to build this and at the point where it threatens the business as a whole it will be stopped. I have faith in human nature and to Tosh, I've read Maslows theory on hierarchy of need and the updated version and also his idea of the qualities of a self-actualiser and believe it or not many of those qualities describe me but I'm nowhere near there yet.
It's an idea I've been thinking of since I started the business and it has evolved and probably evolve more. It may never happen or it could happen by April who knows.
Finally there is a theory that if you think of how it could succeed instead of how it could fail then you can see it differently. I sincerely hope I'm right and if I'm not then I'll be posting on here for a job.

[PoleKing]

Pie I the sky, we'll you may all be right. I am planning to start when my own work can safely sustain another persons wage and enough to live on myself which at present is £25 per day and I live happily on that. I have put this in much more detail to my accountant and at first he thought I was mad but when he went through the idea and figures he admitted that it would work as long as I found the right person and as said we don't have six foot of snow for three months. I have a budget to build this and at the point where it threatens the business as a whole it will be stopped. I have faith in human nature and to Tosh, I've read Maslows theory on hierarchy of need and the updated version and also his idea of the qualities of a self-actualiser and believe it or not many of those qualities describe me but I'm nowhere near there yet.
It's an idea I've been thinking of since I started the business and it has evolved and probably evolve more. It may never happen or it could happen by April who knows.
Finally there is a theory that if you think of how it could succeed instead of how it could fail then you can see it differently. I sincerely hope I'm right and if I'm not then I'll be posting on here for a job.

Am i reading this right Gerald? You're making £25 a day and looking to employ someone?

[Window Lickers]

At £25 a day Gerald you'll have lots of offers.

[Ian101]

doing it your way would make it easier for a rouge employee to nick all of your customers IMHO

Yeah but the red cheeks would give them away, so would be easy to spot. 

 

[DG Cleaning]

You seem like a nice bloke out to do a good thing.
Putting aside the finances which seem a bit flawed.
I'm not sure the type of person you need exists.
If they are bright enough to work the business the way you want then they're more than bright enough to set up on their own, hopefully they won't take all your customers with them.
A previous post was right suggesting a franchisee.

[Tom White]

Gerard,

How is the weight loss going?  Why not focus on that and maybe work and business will take care of itself? 

[rosskesava]

Mate, you will be making a big, big mistake.

I do understand your ideals especially if your view tends towards socialism, as mine does, but things don't work quite like that. You will end up possibly being ripped off or working just to pay your employee.

I've employed in the past and it's a different world viewed from the outside to when you are actually doing it.