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Poll

only for those that have used vision would you buy it again

Yes
43.4%
23 (43.4%)
No
56.6%
30 (56.6%)

Total Members Voted: 50

Stephen.C

  • Posts: 450
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2014, 12:25:34 pm »
So if its that good why cant you use it before you pump through resin? I bet Doug at Daz services will know what it is.
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.

www.pureh2owindowcleaning.com

duncan h

  • Posts: 1875
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2014, 02:53:55 pm »
So if its that good why cant you use it before you pump through resin? I bet Doug at Daz services will know what it is.
Now I know why most on hear clean poop off windows for a living lmao.
 Any chemical could screw the properties of the resin, or the resin will remove the chemical. Not rocket science really  ;D

paulben

  • Posts: 1041
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2014, 03:22:45 pm »
When my bottle is used up I will be getting some more got through work quicker and used less water I don't care whats in it as long as it works and is safe.
Would like to know the following
1 whats the shelf life of bottle

2 whats shelf life when mixed

3 is it affected by frost as its stored in unheated garage
Do not steal the government hates competition

p1w1

  • Posts: 3873
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2014, 03:22:53 pm »
So if its that good why cant you use it before you pump through resin? I bet Doug at Daz services will know what it is.
Now I know why most on hear clean poop off windows for a living lmao.
 Any chemical could screw the properties of the resin, or the resin will remove the chemical. Not rocket science really  ;D
Is that because they don't know how to spell properly?

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #84 on: December 07, 2014, 04:19:25 pm »
When my bottle is used up I will be getting some more got through work quicker and used less water I don't care whats in it as long as it works and is safe.
Would like to know the following
1 whats the shelf life of bottle

2 whats shelf life when mixed

3 is it affected by frost as its stored in unheated garage

Shelf life is far longer than it needs to be. We've had some stored in bottles for over a year now and is still absoloutely fine, we can't give an exact time yet but we are confident it will be way longer than it is likely to be stored for. 

Shelf life when mixed is the same.

Frost will only effect it in that it gets a bit thicker/denser. Just like water.

No other negatives to it.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Bungle

  • Posts: 2392
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #85 on: December 07, 2014, 04:48:42 pm »
Does it make all windows act like hydrophilic?
We look at them, they look through them.

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #86 on: December 07, 2014, 04:59:12 pm »
Does it make all windows act like hydrophilic?

Not all windows no. But it does with the majority.

If you have severely hydrophobic windows then after a few cleans you should notice them start to improve as the more you use vision the easier windows become.

Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Stephen.C

  • Posts: 450
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #87 on: December 07, 2014, 05:19:30 pm »
So if its that good why cant you use it before you pump through resin? I bet Doug at Daz services will know what it is.
Now I know why most on hear clean poop off windows for a living lmao.
 Any chemical could screw the properties of the resin, or the resin will remove the chemical. Not rocket science really  ;D
I'm afraid your missing the point read the question again and think how most systems are built. Its tongue in cheek :-*
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.

www.pureh2owindowcleaning.com

Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #88 on: December 07, 2014, 05:34:11 pm »
Does it make all windows act like hydrophilic?

Not all windows no. But it does with the majority.

If you have severely hydrophobic windows then after a few cleans you should notice them start to improve as the more you use vision the easier windows become.



Does this mean it coats the windows? Do they get dirtier?

Tried it out in another van today (commercial jobs) He came back 2 hours earlier and said it made a massive improvement on rinsing. MASSIVE. We went back and checked in low sun (dreading the results) Bloody perfect. But i trained the lad, so what do you expect ;)

After about 2 hours of solid cleaning, he was only rinsing about 25% of the glass.

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #89 on: December 07, 2014, 05:46:36 pm »
Does it make all windows act like hydrophilic?

Not all windows no. But it does with the majority.

If you have severely hydrophobic windows then after a few cleans you should notice them start to improve as the more you use vision the easier windows become.



Does this mean it coats the windows? Do they get dirtier?

Tried it out in another van today (commercial jobs) He came back 2 hours earlier and said it made a massive improvement on rinsing. MASSIVE. We went back and checked in low sun (dreading the results) Bloody perfect. But i trained the lad, so what do you expect ;)

After about 2 hours of solid cleaning, he was only rinsing about 25% of the glass.

It doesn't coat the glass mate, but just gives it a deeper clean, which seems to make them easier to rinse after each visit.

We've found that if anything they stay a little bit cleaner, not massively, but definitely noticeable. That helps to make each repeated visit easier too.

I'd expect nothing less than perfect Results if he's had the damo training.  ;D
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

kempy

  • Posts: 1442
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #90 on: December 07, 2014, 05:49:20 pm »
Awesome that Pure H2O..

Great that you have actually used the product and reviewed  it honestly .

Dave Willis

Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #91 on: December 07, 2014, 05:56:28 pm »
I don't get this - sorry  :)

With our job you can't actually see the dirt coming off the glass unless it's a baked on poo. So how do you know it's cleaning 25% faster? You can't. Is the water running down the glass 25% faster - doubt it. Are your arms going 25% faster?

I think the claims are well over the top.

Rinsing on the glass saves time but you won't get those kind of gains.

Johnny has been pretty honest so far and hasn't claimed vast improvements from his own product just that it can help sheeting on some glass and seems to add a shine.

Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2014, 06:01:16 pm »
I don't get this - sorry  :)

With our job you can't actually see the dirt coming off the glass unless it's a baked on poo. So how do you know it's cleaning 20% faster? You can't. Is the water running down the glass 20% faster - doubt it. Are your arms going 20% faster?

I think the claims are well over the top.

It's bloody weird I tell you. My ou can see the water accelerate down the glass on rinsing. Very strange and very weird.

paul ette

  • Posts: 631
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2014, 06:26:34 pm »
all sounds pretty awesome to me, cant wait too try it

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2014, 06:34:01 pm »
I don't get this - sorry  :)

With our job you can't actually see the dirt coming off the glass unless it's a baked on poo. So how do you know it's cleaning 25% faster? You can't. Is the water running down the glass 25% faster - doubt it. Are your arms going 25% faster?

I think the claims are well over the top.

Rinsing on the glass saves time but you won't get those kind of gains.

Johnny has been pretty honest so far and hasn't claimed vast improvements from his own product just that it can help sheeting on some glass and seems to add a shine.

It is a funny thing Dave, and really hard to explain, but for every positive comment on here though I've had about 5 emails from people experiencing the same thing so it's definitely not a placebo effect or just coincidence.

It's one of those things that you feel more than you can explain.

For me as well as the cleaning power, I really notice the saving in speed on the final rinse. Wheras before I was rinsing with the brush off the glass in a zig zag motion to flush the water off, now I can just do a very quick rinse of about the top third and then it all just rinses down.

It's not a very technical explanation, lol but it's the best way to explain it without seeing it in person.


Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

duncan h

  • Posts: 1875
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2014, 07:19:48 pm »
So if its that good why cant you use it before you pump through resin? I bet Doug at Daz services will know what it is.
Now I know why most on hear clean poop off windows for a living lmao.
 Any chemical could screw the properties of the resin, or the resin will remove the chemical. Not rocket science really  ;D
Is that because they don't know how to spell properly?
HERE not hear  lOL

jk999

  • Posts: 2091
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2014, 07:29:50 pm »
How many people have to say it works a treat dave before your convinced, I bet if alex gardiner comes on here n says its awsome stuff I bet your oder goes in

Stephen.C

  • Posts: 450
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #97 on: December 07, 2014, 08:03:29 pm »
So if its that good why cant you use it before you pump through resin? I bet Doug at Daz services will know what it is.
Now I know why most on hear clean poop off windows for a living lmao.
 Any chemical could screw the properties of the resin, or the resin will remove the chemical. Not rocket science really  ;D
Is that because they don't know how to spell properly?
HERE not hear  lOL
Woops to much wine :-\
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.

www.pureh2owindowcleaning.com

KS Cleaning

  • Posts: 3955
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #98 on: December 07, 2014, 08:11:03 pm »
So if its that good why cant you use it before you pump through resin? I bet Doug at Daz services will know what it is.
Now I know why most on hear clean poop off windows for a living lmao.
 Any chemical could screw the properties of the resin, or the resin will remove the chemical. Not rocket science really  ;D
Is that because they don't know how to spell properly?
HERE not hear  lOL
Woops to much wine :-\
Too not to :P

Frankybadboy

  • Posts: 9022
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #99 on: December 07, 2014, 08:16:11 pm »
i do find it hard to except that you spent thousands on it,when poor old kempy moans about the cost of buying a fuse  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

good luck to you guys,wish you all the best, ;)