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Poll

only for those that have used vision would you buy it again

Yes
43.4%
23 (43.4%)
No
56.6%
30 (56.6%)

Total Members Voted: 50

davids3511

  • Posts: 2506
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2014, 08:35:15 pm »
This speeds up a third and hot water a third.With all the time saved we will be cleaning glass before we even exit the van soon. I am still trying to find out what its made to do. If we don`t know how do we know it works. B S baffles brains I feel. We are a  gullible bunch.
With 2/3's of the work already done, if we could think of one more thing to save time we'd be laughing.

Plankton

  • Posts: 2441
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2014, 08:50:53 pm »
Gary999 if you bottled your tap water you could make a fortune on here ;D

Caleb Morley

  • Posts: 376
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2014, 12:40:25 am »
I tried the stuff because they said it increases speed , I was fed up off getting behind with work so I tried it and it does speed your work up mines by at least a third . I havent done this to earn more money I would like to try n get early finish even have odd saturdays of . Dont care what anyone says its up to me if I want to use this stuff and im not wasting my money it pays for itself

How does it speed your work up? Genuine question, I'll buy if it's true.

slap bash

  • Posts: 1366
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2014, 10:23:54 am »
I will try  it at a later date in the new year to satisfy my self. If Bushy was not involved it would make it easy to trust but he has been involved in pulling the wool so it will have to prove itself. I believe its a product rebottled as it will take a lot of chemistry know how to make a product like this and I don`t believe these chaps got the knowledge to do this. Its not easy to make a product like this.    
I would not be surprised considering Bushravy is involve that this Vision in just G 101 diluted and bottled and sold to us as a new product. Adding a smell is the easy part. Someone should try G 101 in a diluted form and see if if it has the same results.
The more I think of it more it makes sense ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll.

Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20800
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2014, 10:48:38 am »
I bought a bottle but it's no use to me. I have D.I after the tank.

Do'h!
#aliens

jk999

  • Posts: 2091
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2014, 03:10:20 pm »
Do you actually know these guy slap bash

DG Cleaning

  • Posts: 1726
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2014, 03:27:29 pm »
I bought a little bottle of magic and it knocked a third off the cleaning time.
This stuff should really needs to be on the shopping channel ;D

trippyboy

  • Posts: 747
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2014, 03:45:49 pm »
Am I the only one that dosnt have a clue what vision is?


Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20800
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2014, 04:03:13 pm »
Am I the only one that dosnt have a clue what vision is?

Yes.
#aliens

hasti

  • Posts: 498
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2014, 04:09:28 pm »

Michael Peterson

  • Posts: 1741
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2014, 04:13:11 pm »
We used it today and tested against the normal,

1. It is defiantly concentrated you can see and smell it in the tank
2. It bubbles a bit on the glass looks good I think and the bubbles dry to nothing
3. It feals slippery a little in use a little like squeegy glide used to, it's quite a nice dealing actually
4. Drys quickly , a bit like rain x on a windscreen, doesn't leave marks or anything so bonus
5. We rince and scrub at the same time so are quick anyways however it seems to defiantly improve any spotting issues so gives you more confidence when being quick
6. Hydrophobic windows are slightly improved when scrubbing and rinsing at the same time and leaving the brush on the glass, however whenwe tested brush off the glass with fan jets the rinse is vastly improved , but as I say if you clean normally the spotting is defiantly improved , we were trying to clean as quick as possible and it was difficult to make windows spot

All three of us liked is , it's not a micicle and doesn't clean the window for you but it does what they claim and is 100% noticeable in use we will use this product from now on
I'm not affiliated to the product but am glad to answer any questions on our experience

kempy

  • Posts: 1442
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2014, 04:38:29 pm »
Thanks for the honest review Michael Peterson , I'm glad that yourself and your 3 staff enjoyed using it .

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2014, 04:59:36 pm »
I will try  it at a later date in the new year to satisfy my self. If Bushy was not involved it would make it easy to trust but he has been involved in pulling the wool so it will have to prove itself. I believe its a product rebottled as it will take a lot of chemistry know how to make a product like this and I don`t believe these chaps got the knowledge to do this. Its not easy to make a product like this.    
I would not be surprised considering Bushravy is involve that this Vision in just G 101 diluted and bottled and sold to us as a new product. Adding a smell is the easy part. Someone should try G 101 in a diluted form and see if if it has the same results.
The more I think of it more it makes sense ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll.

Hi slap bash,

As I've said before, we have done the hard work and testing so you don't have to. For as little as £1 per week are you really going to start experimenting on your customers windows and potentially leaving a poor job? We've been there and done that unfortunately.  :(

I know you won't believe me, but I promise you this is not g101 or even anything even remotely similar.

 You cannot go anywhere in the world and buy vision other then through ourselves. We've sourced the ingredients and experimented using different ratios of All the components, and eventually we have a product we all firmly believe in.

It does get frustrating that some people feel we are just rebranding a current product, and to be honest if you start putting random chemicals and ingredients into your pure water, you will soon see that what we have in vision is really unique.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Dave Willis

Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2014, 05:02:48 pm »
Professor Johnny, are you changing the molecular structure of the water?

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2014, 05:27:10 pm »
Professor Johnny, are you changing the molecular structure of the water?

It wouldn't be wise of me to go into it too much detail Dave. Thankfully because I'm no professor. :)

There are many other factors involved. I start to get out of my depth very quickly as I'm just a window cleaner after all. :)
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Dave Willis

Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2014, 05:30:31 pm »
That's what worries me  :o

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2014, 05:41:57 pm »
That's what worries me  :o

It is complicated though, and I am no professor.lol

Everything is 100% safe. Vision in its diluted state is just like pure with a bit of a kick to it. It Gives glass a deeper clean, but still has all the good properties that you want pure h20 to have.

We've also had vision tested to determine if it is safe on double glazing sealed units etc and everything came back safe.

There's nothing to worry about Dave.

Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

hasti

  • Posts: 498
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2014, 05:53:46 pm »
Professor Johnny, are you changing the molecular structure of the water?

It wouldn't be wise of me to go into it too much detail Dave. Thankfully because I'm no professor. :)

There are many other factors involved. I start to get out of my depth very quickly as I'm just a window cleaner after all. :)

Well said jonny, well said  ;D ;D

Dave Willis

Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2014, 06:01:01 pm »
I'm interested in how it does what it's supposed to do. It sounds like you've blended a couple of fluids without much thought or knowledge and found it seems to work rather than working from the ground up so to speak. Are you blending them yourself?
I come from a printing background where surface tension of pure water is altered using isopropanol. Obviously you haven't gone down this route so it seems more likely it's detergent/soap based. Good luck though - I'm going to watch this thread a bit longer and see how everyone gets on.

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Would you buy vision again
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2014, 06:51:16 pm »
I'm interested in how it does what it's supposed to do. It sounds like you've blended a couple of fluids without much thought or knowledge and found it seems to work rather than working from the ground up so to speak. Are you blending them yourself?
I come from a printing background where surface tension of pure water is altered using isopropanol. Obviously you haven't gone down this route so it seems more likely it's detergent/soap based. Good luck though - I'm going to watch this thread a bit longer and see how everyone gets on.


I can see how it seems a bit suspect, a few window cleaners brewing a concoction and then selling it to the public, but All the parts of vision are bought from specific and reputable suppliers, and then we put them in their correct ratios with which we have the safety data sheet made up specifically for.

I don't blame you waiting to see more reviews. I'd probably be the same. :)
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher