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Mr B shine

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Roof cleans
« on: December 03, 2014, 06:09:48 pm »
I have had a couple of people ask about this recently.

 Now the actual cleaning of the roofs seems pretty streight forward, turbo washer or brush or a cemical aplication at some point or other. I would need to look into it a little more but it is not that that bothers me.

 The roofs themselfs, there are various diffrent types of tiles and underlays so my question is.

 How do you work out which method is best and safest for which roof type?

chris scott

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Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 07:19:23 pm »
You need to speak to Lee Sonof  . He is qualified to walk on roofs...try emailing him
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Roger Oakley

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 08:40:34 pm »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 06:46:00 am »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)

Roger Oakley

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 07:24:46 pm »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)

Not a problem Mike, I also noticed he's up your way?

Mr B shine

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Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 09:20:47 pm »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)

 is it really that simple?

 I take it if you use a pressure washer on the roof cleaning with the tiles is an absolute must. Do you put a treatment down after you wash?

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2014, 06:59:49 am »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)

 is it really that simple?

NO  ... But I make it complicated, Hi Rob  ;D

Mr B shine

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Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 10:35:11 pm »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)

 is it really that simple?

NO  ... But I make it complicated, Hi Rob  ;D

well.......ummmmmmm, thanks for the indepth explination  ???  ;)

Blast Away

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 11:11:59 pm »
He won't tell you if you're looking to work in the area he operates in... :-\

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2014, 09:12:17 am »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)
is it really that simple?

NO  ... But I make it complicated, Hi Rob  ;D

well.......ummmmmmm, thanks for the indepth explination  ???  ;)
Look not trying to be funny mate but had this so many times before.

You started off saying its pretty straight forward, I was actually being sarcastic with my other comment.

From the outset I would say its anything but straight forward, to carry out the clean properly In my view you need to walk on the actual roof. Few guys on here say different and use booms tele poles, booms are fine for large commercials but for domestics you very rarely have access, cleaning over a roof in a boom using a telepole you simply cant clean the return of the tail, look at the photos posted on here close up, the returns are still dirty. As a company we also coat so the tile needs to be completely clean no excuses we also use airless sprayers so again you cant do this properly without being on the roof.
Established you are now on the roof, what safety system do you use ? Do you use any ? majority don't. Some use harness lanyard attached to roof ladder,  take that method to any commercial and you will be walked off site. Roof ridge tiles can fail hence using this method offers ltd protection. We use two ropes for positioning and fall protection.

Next actual cleaning we use pressure washing do a search on other methods all already covered.

What happens to the water, obviously you need to block down pipes this then causes the water to flood down onto ground level. We have developed a system which allows us to vacuum, recover, filter and return to main feedtank. Again its how seriously you take your cleaning.

All of this and we havent even looked at roof types, hip roofs, dormers etc etc, maybe given you something to think about, I would never of taken on roof cleaning before I had gained yrs of experience cleaning on ground level ...  I need to be somewhere else good luck Mike

Matt Gibson

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Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2014, 09:19:37 am »
Hip roofs are my nemesis.

Blast Away

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2014, 10:35:44 am »
Here's one we did with a hip on Thursday.


Matt Gibson

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Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2014, 11:19:26 am »
You clean the hip from the tower? Or just use the tower for access?

Blast Away

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2014, 01:11:51 pm »
From the tower yeh. Just used the telescopic lance with turbo angle down. Only for the top 2 metres, lower section got with 900mm lance

Mr B shine

  • Posts: 145
Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2014, 03:36:37 pm »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)
is it really that simple?

NO  ... But I make it complicated, Hi Rob  ;D

well.......ummmmmmm, thanks for the indepth explination  ???  ;)
Look not trying to be funny mate but had this so many times before.

You started off saying its pretty straight forward, I was actually being sarcastic with my other comment.

From the outset I would say its anything but straight forward, to carry out the clean properly In my view you need to walk on the actual roof. Few guys on here say different and use booms tele poles, booms are fine for large commercials but for domestics you very rarely have access, cleaning over a roof in a boom using a telepole you simply cant clean the return of the tail, look at the photos posted on here close up, the returns are still dirty. As a company we also coat so the tile needs to be completely clean no excuses we also use airless sprayers so again you cant do this properly without being on the roof.
Established you are now on the roof, what safety system do you use ? Do you use any ? majority don't. Some use harness lanyard attached to roof ladder,  take that method to any commercial and you will be walked off site. Roof ridge tiles can fail hence using this method offers ltd protection. We use two ropes for positioning and fall protection.

Next actual cleaning we use pressure washing do a search on other methods all already covered.

What happens to the water, obviously you need to block down pipes this then causes the water to flood down onto ground level. We have developed a system which allows us to vacuum, recover, filter and return to main feedtank. Again its how seriously you take your cleaning.

All of this and we havent even looked at roof types, hip roofs, dormers etc etc, maybe given you something to think about, I would never of taken on roof cleaning before I had gained yrs of experience cleaning on ground level ...  I need to be somewhere else good luck Mike

 Hi Mike, cheers, you have just confirmed most of what I thought. What I was being told sounded far to simplistic for a proper worthwhile job.
 just found the search function, been looking for that ;)

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2014, 04:54:49 pm »
Hip roofs are my nemesis.
Look at them as  a challenge  :) We cleaned a roof the other day, for some reason the builder had used reclaims, part worn really fragile. Std roofs had to replace over 40 tiles, majority were already broken under the windows on a sloping roof, I wonder why that was  ? ::)roll, was not looking forward to the the large hip, funny enough its was the best roof on the house, walked down it using ropes not one breakage.
It really all depends on how well the roof has been constructed battens etc.
The roof Lee has shown we would of walked on it using ropes, stack as the anchor using web slings  ;) the time it took him to supply, erect tower we would of been packed up  ;D

 

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2014, 05:14:44 pm »
You should speak to Mike Roberts for roof cleaning.
Thanks Roger appreciated  ::)roll  ;D ;D

Its all straight forward really, clays + concretes pressure clean, slates spray some fungicidal wash on it OR the simplest method is to get the customer to do a Google search  :)
is it really that simple?

NO  ... But I make it complicated, Hi Rob  ;D

well.......ummmmmmm, thanks for the indepth explination  ???  ;)
Look not trying to be funny mate but had this so many times before.

You started off saying its pretty straight forward, I was actually being sarcastic with my other comment.

From the outset I would say its anything but straight forward, to carry out the clean properly In my view you need to walk on the actual roof. Few guys on here say different and use booms tele poles, booms are fine for large commercials but for domestics you very rarely have access, cleaning over a roof in a boom using a telepole you simply cant clean the return of the tail, look at the photos posted on here close up, the returns are still dirty. As a company we also coat so the tile needs to be completely clean no excuses we also use airless sprayers so again you cant do this properly without being on the roof.
Established you are now on the roof, what safety system do you use ? Do you use any ? majority don't. Some use harness lanyard attached to roof ladder,  take that method to any commercial and you will be walked off site. Roof ridge tiles can fail hence using this method offers ltd protection. We use two ropes for positioning and fall protection.

Next actual cleaning we use pressure washing do a search on other methods all already covered.

What happens to the water, obviously you need to block down pipes this then causes the water to flood down onto ground level. We have developed a system which allows us to vacuum, recover, filter and return to main feedtank. Again its how seriously you take your cleaning.

All of this and we havent even looked at roof types, hip roofs, dormers etc etc, maybe given you something to think about, I would never of taken on roof cleaning before I had gained yrs of experience cleaning on ground level ...  I need to be somewhere else good luck Mike

 Hi Mike, cheers, you have just confirmed most of what I thought. What I was being told sounded far to simplistic for a proper worthwhile job.
 just found the search function, been looking for that ;)
Your welcome if you get into it, number one keep safe mate, that's what makes us different, as Lee said in another post which I think is the key to our business / Industry its all about finding your niche market look at the other guys, good example is Roger - Decking Lord  :D

Blast Away

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 03:52:09 pm »
That stack is being rebuilt next week mate. If you would have seen it, you wouldn't be anchoring to it at all. That's why I didn't. Easy enough to walk on that hip due to the grip of the tile(weathered)but you never know who's watching(HSE). Wasn't chancing the stack so nice and simple from tower which took 10 mins to throw up and £70 dropped off and collected.

Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2014, 04:33:47 pm »
That stack is being rebuilt next week mate. If you would have seen it, you wouldn't be anchoring to it at all. That's why I didn't. Easy enough to walk on that hip due to the grip of the tile(weathered)but you never know who's watching(HSE). Wasn't chancing the stack so nice and simple from tower which took 10 mins to throw up and £70 dropped off and collected.
Blimey you have changed  :)

There you go mate, highlights a few points nicely maybe roof cleaning is not so straight forward   ;)

Matt Gibson

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Re: Roof cleans
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2014, 05:02:34 pm »
Hav3 done a few hips with the ropes, but makes it awkward when the anchor point is either front or back and hip is at the side, nothing for the rope to wrap arou d or anchor too when doing the hip.

Tower is a nice idea.