[Arnold Palmer]

Soupy your correct, before adding I will have checked the contents, if the label shows irritant or harmful, then it goes without saying it won't be used without everyone being informed.

Sean, while 95% of problems can come back to technique, there are some that are not, if this eliminates these that's only a good thing

Darran

Nearly every chemical is harmful or irritant in its concentrated form so the MSDS sheet will probably say all sorts of scary things - the truth is though that its going to be massively diluted so its probably safe to drink.

Take bleach for example - sodium hypochlorite is the chemical name & if you read the MSDS on that you'd be quite shocked,.. but it is commonly used in small doses in the public water supply. My dad is involved in a "Group water scheme" (he lives out in the sticks) where one well feeds 30 odd houses with drinking water - they go through a 25 litre drum of concentrated food grade bleach every 2 months!

Yeah, I'm sure it'd be fine. The problem is - as with most things H&S - it hasn't got anything to do with being safe. It's an arse covering exercise.

[wfp master]

must be doing well. its out of stock.

[SeanK]

Come up with a useless product.
Get a few mates to hype it up.
Pretend its out of stock ( hold back until everybody thinks my god this must be good )
Then sell a large batch all in one go.
By the time everyone realises this stuff is just another gimmick that doesn't work your bank account is full.
Then a year or so down the road do the same again just name it something else.
Works every time.

[KS Cleaning]

Come up with a useless product.
Get a few mates to hype it up.
Pretend its out of stock ( hold back until everybody thinks my god this must be good )
Then sell a large batch all in one go.
By the time everyone realises this stuff is just another gimmick that doesn't work your bank account is full.
Then a year or so down the road do the same again just name it something else.
Works every time.

So how many bottles have you ordered Sean

[gary999]

Got to  admire your positivity Sean

[jk999]

Think the missus has told him off 

[DG Cleaning]

Seems to me if your taking longer to clean hydrophobic glass your not very confident in the outcome so your modifying your technique to compensate.
I used to do this but I've stopped and the results are the same.

[Jonny 87]

Hello!

I'm being really careful here as I don't want to tread on CIU's toes. We havnt paid for advertising and I realise that!

I've spoke to a few of you via emails, I'm jonathan sanderson and I'm one of those involved with this project for the last few years.

I'm happy to answer any questions and that's all I will do. I'm genuinely not trying to push a product on to anyone that doesn't want to try it.

[hasti]

Hello!

I'm being really careful here as I don't want to tread on CIU's toes. We havnt paid for advertising and I realise that!

I've spoke to a few of you via emails, I'm jonathan sanderson and I'm one of those involved with this project for the last few years.

I'm happy to answer any questions and that's all I will do. I'm genuinely not trying to push a product on to anyone that doesn't want to try it.

Hi jonathan
So when can we have some more?
It say out of Stock.
Christmas has arrived early for you 

[Jonny 87]

Hello!

I'm being really careful here as I don't want to tread on CIU's toes. We havnt paid for advertising and I realise that!

I've spoke to a few of you via emails, I'm jonathan sanderson and I'm one of those involved with this project for the last few years.

I'm happy to answer any questions and that's all I will do. I'm genuinely not trying to push a product on to anyone that doesn't want to try it.

Hi jonathan
So when can we have some more?
It say out of Stock.
Christmas has arrived early for you 

Hi hasti,

By the end of this evening the doors will be open again. We had a bit of a hiccup over the weekend, but all is sorted now.

[p1w1]

If anything at least Ben M has finally started a post worth reading  

[kempy]

Hi guys , I've answered a lot of phone calls today and I would respond to quotes on here. But it's time consuming .
Everyone has there own thoughts and opinions .
The product I won't comment on really , hopefully persons will try it and enjoy it .
If they don't like it then that's fine and no problem .
The product has had many testers that have enjoyed it .

We won't please everyone .

[Arnold Palmer]

Hi guys , I've answered a lot of phone calls today and I would respond to quotes on here. But it's time consuming .
Everyone has there own thoughts and opinions .
The product I won't comment on really , hopefully persons will try it and enjoy it .
If they don't like it then that's fine and no problem .
The product has had many testers that have enjoyed it .

We won't please everyone .

Is there a COSHH datasheet?

[Jack Harris]

Ill try it once i see some reviews on here 

[SeanK]

Seems to me if your taking longer to clean hydrophobic glass your not very confident in the outcome so your modifying your technique to compensate.
I used to do this but I've stopped and the results are the same.

Exactly DG, some don't seem to realise this.

[Jonny 87]

Hi guys , I've answered a lot of phone calls today and I would respond to quotes on here. But it's time consuming .
Everyone has there own thoughts and opinions .
The product I won't comment on really , hopefully persons will try it and enjoy it .
If they don't like it then that's fine and no problem .
The product has had many testers that have enjoyed it .

We won't please everyone .

Is there a COSHH datasheet?

Hi soupy,

Yes there is a msds data sheet which includes coshh. It's on our website on the product page.

To be honest this is what was holding us up this weekend. I'm going to put my hands up and say I/we messed up. Myself and all others who have used this product know that it it's safe. I've used this exact product for over a year now with no issues, but That isn't good enough though. We have the proper msds sheet made (not by ourselves) and now we can get back to normal.

Anyone who has ordered since Friday night will have there orders shipped first class tomorrow morning and should receive on Wednesday.

[Arnold Palmer]

Hi guys , I've answered a lot of phone calls today and I would respond to quotes on here. But it's time consuming .
Everyone has there own thoughts and opinions .
The product I won't comment on really , hopefully persons will try it and enjoy it .
If they don't like it then that's fine and no problem .
The product has had many testers that have enjoyed it .

We won't please everyone .

Is there a COSHH datasheet?

Hi soupy,

Yes there is a msds data sheet which includes coshh. It's on our website on the product page.

To be honest this is what was holding us up this weekend. I'm going to put my hands up and say I/we messed up. Myself and all others who have used this product know that it it's safe. I've used this exact product for over a year now with no issues, but That isn't good enough though. We have the proper msds sheet made (not by ourselves) and now we can get back to normal.

Anyone who has ordered since Friday night will have there orders shipped first class tomorrow morning and should receive on Wednesday.

Understood. Thanks.

[gary999]

Seems to me if your taking longer to clean hydrophobic glass your not very confident in the outcome so your modifying your technique to compensate.
I used to do this but I've stopped and the results are the same.

DG matey no trying to disagree with you because in the main I agree
but I find generally if there is any spotting issues its normally been on
hydrophobic glass, now if this product can give a hydrophilic response
whilst cleaning and then drying there is a good chance that it would eliminate
any spotting at all for me.

This affects a small percentage of my work using low tds tapwater even smaller
amount rainwater and when I used pure there were stillproperties I cleaned
that this product would be useful for.

The other consideration for me is weather conditions, on windy days
on  busy main roads, hydrophobic glass has given me problems in the past
with the water droplets hanging around far longer especially this time of year
when temps are lower and even when using pure I have had to blade the glass
hydrphillic glass has given me far less problems and again if I can get the
hydrophilic response on glass especially with drying where there its almost
an elastic effect leaving less droplets on the glass would leave me less work
to do.

One technique doesn't always cover all eventualities and if this product
does work I will find it useful.

[paulben]

Turns up just when I have a week of bungalows never mind an excuse to do mine I suppose. Looking forward to trying it. Anyone tried it trad

[Arnold Palmer]

Seems to me if your taking longer to clean hydrophobic glass your not very confident in the outcome so your modifying your technique to compensate.
I used to do this but I've stopped and the results are the same.

DG matey no trying to disagree with you because in the main I agree
but I find generally if there is any spotting issues its normally been on
hydrophobic glass, now if this product can give a hydrophilic response
whilst cleaning and then drying there is a good chance that it would eliminate
any spotting at all for me.

This affects a small percentage of my work using low tds tapwater even smaller
amount rainwater and when I used pure there were stillproperties I cleaned
that this product would be useful for.

The other consideration for me is weather conditions, on windy days
on  busy main roads, hydrophobic glass has given me problems in the past
with the water droplets hanging around far longer especially this time of year
when temps are lower and even when using pure I have had to blade the glass
hydrphillic glass has given me far less problems and again if I can get the
hydrophilic response on glass especially with drying where there its almost
an elastic effect leaving less droplets on the glass would leave me less work
to do.

One technique doesn't always cover all eventualities and if this product
does work I will find it useful.

Yeah, you'll be able to do everyone with tap water now.

Good times.