[jo5hm4n]

Okay so at the moment i just offer a basic window cleaning service, clean the windows, sills and if using WFP which i use for about 15% of my work i clean all frames as you do.

I got a new customer several weeks back with a massive house with 2 conservatories both 3 sided about 14 window sets on each inc doors.

She wanted me to get rid of paint and muck from building work done to the house that had got on the windows so i did that no problem.  She also wanted to me to "clean the frames and sills" and by this i assumed she just ment clean them with WFP and get entry level dirt, dust and muck off?  After i did the job she said no i wanted you to bring up the UPVC sills that had lots of cement and stains on and things and she wanted them to look up to standard.  I felt like a right mug, she paid for the job and i think i've lost the job as she was a new 4 weekly custie but she said she is going to get somebody else in to sort the sills out properly and there is some algae on the gutters which she wanted me to clean but i ran out of time anyway it was dark at 4pm when i had finished.

I don't want this to happen again so i want some advice really guys so that i can offer this as an additional service to my regular work if needed.

1. What can i use to remove stains/thick dirt/cement/everything else off the sill which wont come off with WFP?  I've heard of Magic Sponges/Erasers will this do the job and where do i get them???
2.  If i want to get the UPVC looking up to standard mainly on the sills and almost like new should i use some sort of UPVC cream or cleaner or something?  If so where is best to get this from

Just want some feedback off what you all usually do if you take on this sort of work and how much you charge aswell.

Thanks.

[Clever Forum Name]

Depends on what you want to remove.

Magic sponges

UPVC solvent

Ubik 2000

Belle cement cleaner

List goes on and on.

Is that you Josh told you to email me or call me if you get stuck.

I will send you some pics this weekend of what you can achieve with very little outlay on money

[hasti]

Okay so at the moment i just offer a basic window cleaning service, clean the windows, sills and if using WFP which i use for about 15% of my work i clean all frames as you do.

I got a new customer several weeks back with a massive house with 2 conservatories both 3 sided about 14 window sets on each inc doors.

She wanted me to get rid of paint and muck from building work done to the house that had got on the windows so i did that no problem.  She also wanted to me to "clean the frames and sills" and by this i assumed she just ment clean them with WFP and get entry level dirt, dust and muck off?  After i did the job she said no i wanted you to bring up the UPVC sills that had lots of cement and stains on and things and she wanted them to look up to standard.  I felt like a right mug, she paid for the job and i think i've lost the job as she was a new 4 weekly custie but she said she is going to get somebody else in to sort the sills out properly and there is some algae on the gutters which she wanted me to clean but i ran out of time anyway it was dark at 4pm when i had finished.

I don't want this to happen again so i want some advice really guys so that i can offer this as an additional service to my regular work if needed.

1. What can i use to remove stains/thick dirt/cement/everything else off the sill which wont come off with WFP?  I've heard of Magic Sponges/Erasers will this do the job and where do i get them???
2.  If i want to get the UPVC looking up to standard mainly on the sills and almost like new should i use some sort of UPVC cream or cleaner or something?  If so where is best to get this from

Just want some feedback off what you all usually do if you take on this sort of work and how much you charge aswell.

Thanks.

Hi Jo
Use this product.
I have been using it for some times now and its amazing product, it even protect the upvc as well, and you can charge very good money for doing it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2SV5SRQkY

[PoleKing]

Okay so at the moment i just offer a basic window cleaning service, clean the windows, sills and if using WFP which i use for about 15% of my work i clean all frames as you do.

I got a new customer several weeks back with a massive house with 2 conservatories both 3 sided about 14 window sets on each inc doors.

She wanted me to get rid of paint and muck from building work done to the house that had got on the windows so i did that no problem.  She also wanted to me to "clean the frames and sills" and by this i assumed she just ment clean them with WFP and get entry level dirt, dust and muck off?  After i did the job she said no i wanted you to bring up the UPVC sills that had lots of cement and stains on and things and she wanted them to look up to standard.  I felt like a right mug, she paid for the job and i think i've lost the job as she was a new 4 weekly custie but she said she is going to get somebody else in to sort the sills out properly and there is some algae on the gutters which she wanted me to clean but i ran out of time anyway it was dark at 4pm when i had finished.

I don't want this to happen again so i want some advice really guys so that i can offer this as an additional service to my regular work if needed.

1. What can i use to remove stains/thick dirt/cement/everything else off the sill which wont come off with WFP?  I've heard of Magic Sponges/Erasers will this do the job and where do i get them???
2.  If i want to get the UPVC looking up to standard mainly on the sills and almost like new should i use some sort of UPVC cream or cleaner or something?  If so where is best to get this from

Just want some feedback off what you all usually do if you take on this sort of work and how much you charge aswell.

Thanks.

Hi Jo
Use this product.
I have been using it for some times now and its amazing product, it even protect the upvc as well, and you can charge very good money for doing it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2SV5SRQkY

It's easier to just call Hasti, he'll sell you some, cheap.

[hasti]

Okay so at the moment i just offer a basic window cleaning service, clean the windows, sills and if using WFP which i use for about 15% of my work i clean all frames as you do.

I got a new customer several weeks back with a massive house with 2 conservatories both 3 sided about 14 window sets on each inc doors.

She wanted me to get rid of paint and muck from building work done to the house that had got on the windows so i did that no problem.  She also wanted to me to "clean the frames and sills" and by this i assumed she just ment clean them with WFP and get entry level dirt, dust and muck off?  After i did the job she said no i wanted you to bring up the UPVC sills that had lots of cement and stains on and things and she wanted them to look up to standard.  I felt like a right mug, she paid for the job and i think i've lost the job as she was a new 4 weekly custie but she said she is going to get somebody else in to sort the sills out properly and there is some algae on the gutters which she wanted me to clean but i ran out of time anyway it was dark at 4pm when i had finished.

I don't want this to happen again so i want some advice really guys so that i can offer this as an additional service to my regular work if needed.

1. What can i use to remove stains/thick dirt/cement/everything else off the sill which wont come off with WFP?  I've heard of Magic Sponges/Erasers will this do the job and where do i get them???
2.  If i want to get the UPVC looking up to standard mainly on the sills and almost like new should i use some sort of UPVC cream or cleaner or something?  If so where is best to get this from

Just want some feedback off what you all usually do if you take on this sort of work and how much you charge aswell.

Thanks.

Hi Jo
Use this product.
I have been using it for some times now and its amazing product, it even protect the upvc as well, and you can charge very good money for doing it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2SV5SRQkY

It's easier to just call Hasti, he'll sell you some, cheap.

No mate i don't sell the stuff , but i know who can 

[jo5hm4n]

Thanks guys,

Just out of interest this product  the CleanX shower products or whatever, can anyone that's used this expand on exactly how you are applying this product or what you personally doing with it.  Found the video wasn't relevant to cleaning UPVC in anyway so i would prefer if somebody who has used it could explain a little more thanks.  Pure H20 services if you are who i think you are   I have sent you an email and if it is you then i will send you an email with an explanation of what happened on that job i was doing.

Thanks

[hasti]

Thanks guys,

Just out of interest this product  the CleanX shower products or whatever, can anyone that's used this expand on exactly how you are applying this product or what you personally doing with it.  Found the video wasn't relevant to cleaning UPVC in anyway so i would prefer if somebody who has used it could explain a little more thanks.  Pure H20 services if you are who i think you are   I have sent you an email and if it is you then i will send you an email with an explanation of what happened on that job i was doing.

Thanks

Hi Jo

I have used it few times on UPVC, and some metal frames too, and its great because not only give the surface a great shine as well it protect it too, you can use it for all kinds of surface, i have even used it for my own bathroom and kitchen sink.

you can buy it here :


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prof-Surface-Protectant-Surface-Protectant-Cleans-polishes-protects-/301406184014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item462d35624e


And direction has given on the bottles.

You can also talk to Darran from (Purple Rhino) who use it a lot more than me for the type of jobs he does.

his E mai: darran@purple-rhino.co.uk

[deeege]

Or you could just buy some Virosol. You'll be getting a product that isn't watered down by the a middle man and I've been using to clean plastics for a few years now, with excellent results.

[dazmond]

Or you could just buy some Virosol. You'll be getting a product that isn't watered down by the a middle man and I've been using to clean plastics for a few years now, with excellent results.

+1 and get some cif cream cleaner and scourers for the stubborn marks.works a treat on sills/frames that have marks stained by leaves or metal objects left on sills(rust marks).

[slap bash]

Just for the record Hasti is Bush rave.

[SeanK]

Jo it is very hard and time consuming to get badly stained UPVC up to a new standard and sometimes
impossible.
Another thing to watch out for is powder coated aluminium gutters and fascias they can be stained because of corrosion
and if this is the case they wont come up well at all.
Its always best if they are badly stained to give a small section a clean just to see what they are like underneath the
gunge before pricing.
You need to make the above clear to any potential customer and price separately for each different service.
When removing concrete and paint from windows you need to be careful not to get blamed for any scratches you
may find when the glass is cleaned.
Usually a messy builder means plenty of scratches on the glass.
I think the customer you are talking about was just a messer looking as much done for as little money as possible
and you wouldn't have got her long term custom anyway so don't lose any sleep over it.

[hasti]

Jo it is very hard and time consuming to get badly stained UPVC up to a new standard and sometimes
impossible.
Another thing to watch out for is powder coated aluminium gutters and fascias they can be stained because of corrosion
and if this is the case they wont come up well at all.
Its always best if they are badly stained to give a small section a clean just to see what they are like underneath the
gunge before pricing.
You need to make the above clear to any potential customer and price separately for each different service.
When removing concrete and paint from windows you need to be careful not to get blamed for any scratches you
may find when the glass is cleaned.
Usually a messy builder means plenty of scratches on the glass.
I think the customer you are talking about was just a messer looking as much done for as little money as possible
and you wouldn't have got her long term custom anyway so don't lose any sleep over it.

This product will bring all that out.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prof-Surface-Protectant-Surface-Protectant-Cleans-polishes-protects-/301406184014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item462d35624e

[Darranvps]

Thanks guys,

Just out of interest this product  the CleanX shower products or whatever, can anyone that's used this expand on exactly how you are applying this product or what you personally doing with it.  Found the video wasn't relevant to cleaning UPVC in anyway so i would prefer if somebody who has used it could explain a little more thanks.  Pure H20 services if you are who i think you are   I have sent you an email and if it is you then i will send you an email with an explanation of what happened on that job i was doing.

Thanks

Hi Jo

I have used it few times on UPVC, and some metal frames too, and its great because not only give the surface a great shine as well it protect it too, you can use it for all kinds of surface, i have even used it for my own bathroom and kitchen sink.

you can buy it here :


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prof-Surface-Protectant-Surface-Protectant-Cleans-polishes-protects-/301406184014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item462d35624e


And direction has given on the bottles.

You can also talk to Darran from (Purple Rhino) who use it a lot more than me for the type of jobs he does.

his E mai: darran@purple-rhino.co.uk

Virosol is better - we use Virosol for all upovc frames etc

[Plankton]

I've never used virosl or ubik but if they're paying enough I'll use Astonish which I've let the wife use to clean ours!