[Caleb Morley]

I've always been a Gardiner Pole systems man. Ive got 2 CLX 22's at the moment, one of which needs replacing. I'm going to go for the SLX 25, which I've had before and really liked until it broke.

Anyway - my only big pole at the moment is an aluminium 35 made by Brodex. It's awful - too heavy, too bendy etc etc.

I need a larger pole to replace it but can't afford a Gardiner one.

What are the Phoenix Carbon X poles like? Thinking of getting the 40 foot one.

Cheers for any advice.

Caleb

[Jakey boy]

They are fantastic poles, there's been a lot of talk about them on this forum recently, I'm not sure how good the 40ft will be, but I've got a 25ft and 18ft and they are so light, rigid and fast to use its unbelievable, I have a 35ft slx2 and its so bendy it's really not easy to use, can hardly get decent pressure, but whether the phoenix will be any better at that height, I doubt it... It'll probably be wippy and bendy but that's just the norm with any carbon pole at that height. Unless you go for a gardiner xtreme pole...

Also the facelift brush is fantastic, amazing scrubbing power, and works so well on the glass, I may do a comparison video between gardiner and facelift brushes to show the difference...

[Caleb Morley]

They are fantastic poles, there's been a lot of talk about them on this forum recently, I'm not sure how good the 40ft will be, but I've got a 25ft and 18ft and they are so light, rigid and fast to use its unbelievable, I have a 35ft slx2 and its so bendy it's really not easy to use, can hardly get decent pressure, but whether the phoenix will be any better at that height, I doubt it... It'll probably be wippy and bendy but that's just the norm with any carbon pole at that height. Unless you go for a gardiner xtreme pole...

Also the facelift brush is fantastic, amazing scrubbing power, and works so well on the glass, I may do a comparison video between gardiner and facelift brushes to show the difference...

Thanks for you're reply.

Anything will be better than the aluminium Brodex.

I also want a large pole so I've hot everything covered on residential and obviously be good on a lot of commercial. I don't use a large pole often enought to spend out on a gardiner one plus as I said I can't afford one right now!

[Jakey boy]

They are fantastic poles, there's been a lot of talk about them on this forum recently, I'm not sure how good the 40ft will be, but I've got a 25ft and 18ft and they are so light, rigid and fast to use its unbelievable, I have a 35ft slx2 and its so bendy it's really not easy to use, can hardly get decent pressure, but whether the phoenix will be any better at that height, I doubt it... It'll probably be wippy and bendy but that's just the norm with any carbon pole at that height. Unless you go for a gardiner xtreme pole...

Also the facelift brush is fantastic, amazing scrubbing power, and works so well on the glass, I may do a comparison video between gardiner and facelift brushes to show the difference...

Thanks for you're reply.

Anything will be better than the aluminium Brodex.

I also want a large pole so I've hot everything covered on residential and obviously be good on a lot of commercial. I don't use a large pole often enought to spend out on a gardiner one plus as I said I can't afford one right now!

If go for the facelift then, I wish id bought a facelift 35 rather than slx35, but assumed gardiner pole would be stiffer, it's not... It's really really wippy! Go for he phoenix x, are you sure you need a 40ft?

[ChumBucket]

There is a massive difference between a 25ft pole & a 35ft pole. It's not realistic nor helpful to compare two pole with 10 feet of length between them!!

This goes for any pole (Xtreme isn't as noticable). If you added 10 feet to your Phoenix pole I can assure you it would be a completely different beast!!

[oldman]

I have a SLX35' and the only time I would say it's a bit whippy/bendy is when I'm doing velux windows.

[Jakey boy]

There is a massive difference between a 25ft pole & a 35ft pole. It's not realistic nor helpful to compare two pole with 10 feet of length between them!!

This goes for any pole (Xtreme isn't as noticable). If you added 10 feet to your Phoenix pole I can assure you it would be a completely different beast!!

Exactly, like I said, I've no idea what the 40ft would be like, however the question the op asked was 'are phoenix pokes any good' ? To which I replied based on my personal expierence of the 25ft... The slx35 I have is so bendy, it's not nice to use, and as said, I'm not sure if the facelift will be any better. The op wanted to know what phoenix poles were like, so that's what I tried to answer! They are fantastic poles, fast light and wash I use, the clamps are a dream!

[Richard ham]

My slx 35 with 2 extra sections bends more than my old 35 streamline pole which was composite. I personally don't like thr full carbon slx poles but thats just my opinion. Im also going off the brushes too. Im careful with all my equipment and its only lasting a very short amount of time. 1 year and my slx 35 is almost dead. The old clx with old clamps lasted longer.

Time for a change......exceed pole next for me.

[Jakey boy]

My slx 35 with 2 extra sections bends more than my old 35 streamline pole which was composite. I personally don't like thr full carbon slx poles but thats just my opinion. Im also going off the brushes too. Im careful with all my equipment and its only lasting a very short amount of time. 1 year and my slx 35 is almost dead. The old clx with old clamps lasted longer.

Time for a change......exceed pole next for me.

+1

[Dave Willis]

How long have you been using your Pheonix as an every day pole Jakey?

[Jakey boy]

How long have you been using your Pheonix as an every day pole Jakey?

9 months,

A good friend recommended them after using phoenix poles for last 3 years

[Dave Willis]

Blimey, doesn't three years go quickly!

[Jakey boy]

Blimey, doesn't three years go quickly!

Ay?

[Caleb Morley]

Does anyone have any recommendations for a large pole other than Phoenix or gardiners?

The reason I want to get a 40 is that I don't want to be caught out on windows I obviously can't reach with a normal 25ft pole.

I don't use the aluminium Brodex that often, probably once a day but I'm losing time because it's so difficult to use and it's knackering!

[ashbash]

ive just bought the phoenix hybrid pro 35 foot £280 all in with brush . great piece of kit and well worth it if  if your on a budget. 

[Caleb Morley]

ive just bought the phoenix hybrid pro 35 foot £280 all in with brush . great piece of kit and well worth it if  if your on a budget. 

Mate,

How often do you use it?

What's it like to use, heavy, wispy?

Can it reach loft extensions easily and set back former windows?

Cheers for you're help.

[ChumBucket]

Just buy an Xtreme 25 + a couple of extension sections. Best pole on the planet & everything you could want & need. Buy once- Job done.

Trust me, you don't want any hybrid at 35ft!!

[Jakey boy]

35ft will easily reach loft extension height, you've got nearly 40ft reach with a 35ft pole, defo try and stretch to a carbon though

[PoleKing]

My slx 35 with 2 extra sections bends more than my old 35 streamline pole which was composite. I personally don't like thr full carbon slx poles but thats just my opinion. Im also going off the brushes too. Im careful with all my equipment and its only lasting a very short amount of time. 1 year and my slx 35 is almost dead. The old clx with old clamps lasted longer.

Time for a change......exceed pole next for me.

Really?!
I've had my SLX2 18' & 30' for 16 months and I'm not very careful.
The 30' has barely worn in and I'll get another year out of the 18' I'm sure.

[ChumBucket]

My slx 35 with 2 extra sections bends more than my old 35 streamline pole which was composite. I personally don't like thr full carbon slx poles but thats just my opinion. Im also going off the brushes too. Im careful with all my equipment and its only lasting a very short amount of time. 1 year and my slx 35 is almost dead. The old clx with old clamps lasted longer.

Time for a change......exceed pole next for me.

Really?!
I've had my SLX2 18' & 30' for 16 months and I'm not very careful.
The 30' has barely worn in and I'll get another year out of the 18' I'm sure.

My first SLX lasted four years, in fact it was still going when I replaced it. My current SLX is over two years old & still going strong- both used daily for 99% of work.