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DaveG

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Gas heaters (again)
« on: November 27, 2014, 04:12:20 pm »
I've had my L5 for 3 or 4 years now and need another for the other van. Is this one used by anyone on here?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-6L-LPG-Propane-Gas-Tankless-Instant-Hot-Water-Heater-Instant-Boiler-CE-/221354231025?

Seems a good price...
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slap bash

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2014, 04:29:50 pm »
I think they are all the same inside anyway.

Deangsi

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2014, 05:18:49 pm »
IV got this one used for one day so far so good il keep people posted on its quality, it requires a fair bit of flow, tho I just have a divirter tap back to tank fir excess water

DaveG

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2014, 07:45:29 pm »
Cheers guys,

Yep, please keep us posted Dean.
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Dave Willis

Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2014, 08:40:21 pm »
I'd buy it  just for the free girl in a bath that it comes with.

Deangsi

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2014, 09:23:36 pm »
I was really gutted when she didn't turn up with the boiler I was looking forward to sharing a nice shower in the back of the van with her  ;D

Dave Willis

Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2014, 10:01:10 pm »
You should see my boiler  :-[ :-[

Frankybadboy

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 10:02:56 pm »

DaveG

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2014, 07:28:34 am »
I asked a question about whether it comes with a gas pipe, this is their answer..


New message from: ukdirectseller (1973Red Star)

 
Dear friend,
Thanks for your message
This heater won't come with a gas pipe, but you can use it without a gas pipe. pls no worry, ok?
I would like give 5% discount off to your order if making payment  via Paypal payment directly . If it ok with you, please send us your paypal email, then we will send invoice to you to pay. Item will be dispathced to you  with tracking number within 1 day when receive your payment.
Awaiting for your reply
Best regards
Michaela Veit

Not sure how it can be used without a gas pipe!
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davids3511

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2014, 11:35:48 am »
He probably means vent.

WCS Limited

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2014, 11:43:58 am »
looked at these and they don't have a flue attachment as they are meant for outdoor use, they are the only onbes the Chinese firm has in the UK at the moment but if you willing to wait three weeks you can get the 10/12L ones for a little more. Basically identical to the Reach2clean ones but without their logo...

Oh they take the 90mm flue kits too

Spruce

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2014, 12:21:54 pm »
looked at these and they don't have a flue attachment as they are meant for outdoor use, they are the only onbes the Chinese firm has in the UK at the moment but if you willing to wait three weeks you can get the 10/12L ones for a little more. Basically identical to the Reach2clean ones but without their logo...

Oh they take the 90mm flue kits too

The 8 lpm ones work fine with the flow that most window cleaner use. The fogwill one that was supposed to be the best was a 6 lpm heater. I think you will find that the 12 lpm unit will be too big for window cleaner to use. The flow to the brush we use probably won't be enough to kick the heater on.
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DaveG

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 10:46:13 pm »
IV got this one used for one day so far so good il keep people posted on its quality, it requires a fair bit of flow, tho I just have a divirter tap back to tank fir excess water

How's the boiler working Dean?
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SeanK

Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 11:23:44 pm »
Why is all their feedback from private buyers ? 

slap bash

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2014, 10:02:44 am »
Buying  l12 will be madness as it will fire up due to the 100 psi that most pumps used by us they problem is flow which in this case is 12 liters a min so the slow movement of water will boil in the boiler expand and probably burst all your fitting and maybe even you boiler.I have said this before but no one seams to listen so go ahead and buy a 12L
Even a L6 could burst with a low flow of water, Its the PSI that switches on the boiler its the low/flow in liters that makes damage. Thats why you must match the liters per min to a boiler that requires the same flow. This small factor that most seam to miss and that makes each boiler and pump combo different. If it work for one pump it might not work for all.
So when you set your controller down you will need to set the boiler at the same time. Its more complex than it appears on the surface.

robert mitchell

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2014, 10:47:01 am »
I think you will find it has a flow switch to turn the gas on and ignite boiler , the pressure stated is the optimum pressure range .

A pressure switch would make no sense ....... the boiler will still be pressurised when the flow is stopped so would carry on heating ........all gas boilers use a flow switch .

also the stated lpm is usually the maximum flow not the minimum flow .
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TomCrowther

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2014, 11:07:06 am »
Has anyone posted on what fittings you need to change when going over to hot? I would like to try hot but don't want to go the whole hog in terms of thermobore, new reels.
Can you use hot with normal microfiber for example?

Smurf

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2014, 11:33:59 am »
The standard minibore hose I have seems to work just fine with hot. The problems I have had in the past though was with the clear type pole hose and standard garden house from the outlet of the heater kept blowing if the water flow was turned off from the pole.

I now use yellow or red wfp pole hose which now seems fine with hot and use a different type of hose on the hot outlet side to the reel which is better suited to hot water.

   

   

Smurf

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2014, 11:52:23 am »
Regards the size/flow rate of a portable heater it will simply not fire up or remain constanly on if the flow rate is detected to low on the boiler. This is just one of the built in safety feature that all boilers are fitted with.

Bearing in mind these portable gas hot water heaters are just outside type showers really so have been designed to be used connected to an outside tap or maybe some with a water pump. So for window cleaning you need to look at the min flow rate in the spec they will work at also ventilation if used in the back of a van.



 

robert mitchell

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Re: Gas heaters (again)
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2014, 11:56:38 am »
The l5 is 0.5 us gpm ....... not sure what that is in litres exactly but it says it can be used with a 12v pump .
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