[richywilts]

its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc

i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright

i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz

im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot 

[gary999]

Go to school kids and get an education...
Don't do do drugs and learn from your mistakes
Things dont get handed to you in life so work hard...


But dad, richywilts doesn't do any of these things and look at him!

Yeah, fair point, do what you like...

No offence richy, but after what you say you're turning over and what you've put your mum and dad through, i dont think i could carry on scrounging, purely out of guilt...

If you're turning over 71k i'm pretty sure you could at least rent a place and stop letting your mum and dad wipe your ar5e

Good luck mate

That was areally polite way of putting across what I was thinking..thankyou
Donkee!

[Frankybadboy]

don-key how could you be so rude

[Bob Stones]

 ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz

Good man, keep it going

afterall, a dealer with no gear isnt much use to anyone

[Frankybadboy]

ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz
 

you been banged up for 2 years and you can still find 6k to spend on equipment

[richywilts]

thinka this covers most up to date expenses yes unfortunately its cost me over 6 grand since starting up but hopefully nothing else needed now except fitting out newest van, 90% of things paid out of the business money


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[Frankybadboy]

where you getting paid while in nick and saving in the 2 years 

[richywilts]

nah not a penny got stitched up by so called friend didnt expect anything but he said he would provide some money for kids etc and send me some in but never materialised had to pay to get business back a grand

[KS Cleaning]

its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc

i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright

i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz

im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot 

You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?

[Smudger]

I'm sure Jon king (joking) is very pleased to see you revealing his wages over a public forum.....


Darran

[richywilts]

its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc

i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright

i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz

im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot 

You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?

i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle

[Smudger]

its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc

i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright

i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz

im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot 

You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?

i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle

You had this with all your staff pre prison - I wonder what the common denominator is here

The problem with forecasts based on a few weeks is they are unrealistic
Week 1 - 2 customers (£30) week 2 - 4 customers (£60) week 3 - 7 customers (£110)
And low and behold !!  Week 30 - 1500 customers £450,000 !!

You can quote thousands of schools etc, and not get a single one, it's go good sitting there waiting for them to ring back !!

Darran

[richywilts]

give it a break smudger jumping to conclusions again

im not making any figures up at all im forecasting off my regular work plus price increase, plus number of adhoc jobs etc

, ive said he was a good worker but UNRELIABLE i got the impression he didnt want to work full time hes been from job to job and kept asking me to move the goalposts would you keep accomadting staff member if they demanded this that and the other i doubt you would no

schools are primary schools we tend to clean in summer holidays etc, some once a year some once every two years and some more regular i will be contacting them after xmas to book them in

[Don Kee]

If he was unreliable then he wasn't wasn't a good worker was he?

Isn't this the ex RM lad?

I know a few serving and ex RM, trust you to find the one mong eh?

[Smudger]

What conclusions have I jumped to richy ? I'm only going on what info you have supplied, a forecast is just that, in reality it means nothing, especially over a short period,  you can only measure growth and then forecast over at least a years figures, if not 2 years, on a short range forecast such as yours are you taking into account the extra vehicles, staff, and logistical problems that arise, let alone seasonal effects on window cleaning ?

Sorry if another point of view has rattled your cage

Darran

[KS Cleaning]

its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc

i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright

i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz

im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot 

You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?

i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle

That would be staffing problems then!

[richywilts]

What conclusions have I jumped to richy ? I'm only going on what info you have supplied, a forecast is just that, in reality it means nothing, especially over a short period,  you can only measure growth and then forecast over at least a years figures, if not 2 years, on a short range forecast such as yours are you taking into account the extra vehicles, staff, and logistical problems that arise, let alone seasonal effects on window cleaning ?

Sorry if another point of view has rattled your cage

Darran

sprry thought u was having a go at me saying im the common denominator this was out my hands in 12 weeks or so of working for he had about 5 unauthorised absences,

[richywilts]

If he was unreliable then he wasn't wasn't a good worker was he?

Isn't this the ex RM lad?

I know a few serving and ex RM, trust you to find the one numpty eh?

no this wasnt the ex royal marine he was thru the job centre had 15 yrs experience but seemed to have issues all the time wanting to finish work early he had six kids and only 32 so prob had problems at home

[richywilts]

its not my idea its what my parents want to do he can make more money this way than having it in his bond like i said its an investment, hence reason were looking a repossessions etc

i will be doing it up and poss putting an extension on it, my dads just putting the cash in to buy it outright

i am turning over in region of 71k give or take a few thousand but the last few months ive prob had 6 grand expenses buying things to get the business in best possible state with equipment etc ive reinvested pretty much everything ive made hilst im on tag which comes off tmoz

im very lucky wioth the support ive recieved from family but il turn it all down hey to please u lot 

You are not turning over 71k, you have only been going for a couple o months.....and aren't you having staffing problems already?

i knwo ive not turned over 71k yet but my predictions at present will hit 71k like i said give or take a few thousand with new customers and add on work etc and schools i clean that arent active on my system etc untill they ring and book in, wouldnt say staffing issues the lad i had was a good worker but unreliable come weekends and mondays think he liked to party a little, wanted to finish work early all the time,wanted more money than we agreed wanted a van and fuel to be paid for him to get to and from work it just wasnt worth the hassle

You had this with all your staff pre prison - I wonder what the common denominator is here

The problem with forecasts based on a few weeks is they are unrealistic
Week 1 - 2 customers (£30) week 2 - 4 customers (£60) week 3 - 7 customers (£110)
And low and behold !!  Week 30 - 1500 customers £450,000 !!

You can quote thousands of schools etc, and not get a single one, it's go good sitting there waiting for them to ring back !!

Darran

darran ive got my old rounds back again with regular work averaging approx 7300 every six weeks which is yes only 63000 a year but price rise is due in jan prices going up approx £1.50 but i also do lots of upvc jobs etc and one off commercials and work is building up every month,

[deeege]

If he was unreliable then he wasn't wasn't a good worker was he?

Isn't this the ex RM lad?

I know a few serving and ex RM, trust you to find the one numpty eh?

no this wasnt the ex royal marine he was thru the job centre had 15 yrs experience but seemed to have issues all the time wanting to finish work early he had six kids and only 32 so prob had problems at home

If I had 6 kids at 32 I'd be asking for all the overtime you could give me. The last thing I'd want is an early finish.