[dave f]

been down to get some lpg ,gas out of intrest asked about any laws about carrying lpg.the guy told me if you are carrying only one bottle ie 13kg you dont have to even have it secured sounds dodgey to me,plus you dont have to display a warning sticker which i find hard to beleave.caravans are different as there bottles  have to be secured.if you carry more than 26 kgs you have to be secured and have a warning sticker etc . sounds a bit  strange  think ill do a bit more .just to be on the safe side ive secured mine got a sticker and to extinguishers for good measure. just for show mind,id be off like feck if owt went pete tong.

[Jonny 87]

Shhhhhhhh

The safety brigade here will be on shortly to SEVERELY disagree!

 

[Spruce]

been down to get some lpg ,gas out of intrest asked about any laws about carrying lpg.the guy told me if you are carrying only one bottle ie 13kg you dont have to even have it secured sounds dodgey to me,plus you dont have to display a warning sticker which i find hard to beleave.caravans are different as there bottles  have to be secured.if you carry more than 26 kgs you have to be secured and have a warning sticker etc . sounds a bit  strange  think ill do a bit more .just to be on the safe side ive secured mine got a sticker and to extinguishers for good measure. just for show mind,id be off like feck if owt went pete tong.

This is correct. There would be no way of policing the safety of fixing a gas bottle to every roofer's van out there that does felt roofing. On occasions like this the government has left the insurance industry to 'carry the can' of unpopular safety regulations. Front mounted bullbars were a prime example a few years back.

The caravan industry did better with regard to fixing a bracket to the front drawbar but I doubt it had much to do with safety. This was really the best place for utilizing space and yes, it just happened to be outside the sleeping quarters if a leak should occur. At least we are told to switch the gas off at the bottle when driving, but I wonder how many LPG gas heater users actually do it though.

In our early caravaning days nearly 60 years ago my folks towed their caravan from the Copperbelt in Zambia down to the south coast in Natal South Africa every second year and our gas fridge was lit all the time. Every other caravaner did the same as there wasn't a 12v provision in those days. 

[SeanK]

It was a lot to do with Safety in the caravan motorhome industry, my first business idea was to convert
vans into campers as I had done a few for myself and sold them on over the years.
The gas regulations were a legal minefield and getting the right answers from the insurance companies
was nearly impossible
It was the same when I looked into installing a gas water heater into my work van, there were just to many
get out of paying clauses for my insurance company.
Strange how the thought of being financially out of pocket put me off more that the thought of being injured.

[LWC]

As a Firefighter on this subject, displaying a sticker would be preferred, ok not law but...hey...if your vans on fire, id like to know what i as a Firefighter am walking up to.

[PoleKing]

As a Firefighter on this subject, displaying a sticker would be preferred, ok not law but...hey...if your vans on fire, id like to know what i as a Firefighter am walking up to.

Are you 100% on the fact that the sticker isn't law?
Do you know where the best place to find any applicable laws and recommendations would be-link if possible please?

Do you know about the securing of the bottle & law please?
Again, a link if you know please?

[LWC]

As a Firefighter on this subject, displaying a sticker would be preferred, ok not law but...hey...if your vans on fire, id like to know what i as a Firefighter am walking up to.

Are you 100% on the fact that the sticker isn't law?
Do you know where the best place to find any applicable laws and recommendations would be-link if possible please?

Do you know about the securing of the bottle & law please?
Again, a link if you know please?

Im only going off the first post, i should have said "may not be law" my mistake.

[PoleKing]

As a Firefighter on this subject, displaying a sticker would be preferred, ok not law but...hey...if your vans on fire, id like to know what i as a Firefighter am walking up to.

Are you 100% on the fact that the sticker isn't law?
Do you know where the best place to find any applicable laws and recommendations would be-link if possible please?

Do you know about the securing of the bottle & law please?
Again, a link if you know please?

Im only going off the first post, i should have said "may not be law" my mistake.

No sweat.
I looked for ages on legal side of things before I went hot. I couldn't find anything concrete, just thought you might know.
All the best

[LWC]

Put a sticker on whatever. If i see that warning sticker, ill be backing away from vehicle and setting up a big cordon! Do it for safety of Fire crews and public 

[PoleKing]

Put a sticker on whatever. If i see that warning sticker, ill be backing away from vehicle and setting up a big cordon! Do it for safety of Fire crews and public 

I do.
I've got a magnetic one as I'm not hot all the time.
Friend of mine is a fire trainer, she said the same.

While you're on...the firefighters were picketing/striking again in my town last week.
Whys that this time? Pensions again?

[LWC]

I dont get involved in strikes mate, personal choice. I do agree with the reason they strike over pensions however, im here to help my community no matter what.

[PoleKing]

I dont get involved in strikes mate, personal choice. I do agree with the reason they strike over pensions however, im here to help my community no matter what.

Sorry, I wasn't clear, I was just asking: Are they striking over pensions or something else?

[LWC]

No idea, im not in the union anyway lol.

[Plankton]

Not trying to insult LWC but long time ago I had a chemical spillage and sticky stuff hit the fan, anyway there were around 4 or 5 fire trucks 2 or 3 special units, cars, ambulances, police, reporters etc.
I was standing upwind with some crew trying to explain how to open a curtain side hgv.
Thought these guys would be trained for this sort of stuff! So I wouldn't expect the fire crew to know every aspect that comes there way including whether or not an LPG should be strapped or not. Like he said if he was walking towards a vehicle then it sure dose help if he can identify if its carrying a pressurised container/cylinder etc.
I have been chinned from the police when running with haz mat signs after delivering the shipment so was no longer required to display them and had an ear full of if there was an accident etc.

[robert mitchell]

I dont get involved in strikes mate, personal choice. I do agree with the reason they strike over pensions however, im here to help my community no matter what.

Sorry, I wasn't clear, I was just asking: Are they striking over pensions or something else?

Yes the basic answer is its over pensions but it's more complicated in reality .

The union have a proposal that falls within the cost ceiling the government has set but they won't accept it .

[PoleKing]

I dont get involved in strikes mate, personal choice. I do agree with the reason they strike over pensions however, im here to help my community no matter what.

Sorry, I wasn't clear, I was just asking: Are they striking over pensions or something else?

Yes the basic answer is its over pensions but it's more complicated in reality .

The union have a proposal that falls within the cost ceiling the government has set but they won't accept it .

Ta.

Seems harsh

[robert mitchell]

I believe the Tories have an agenda to privatise the fire service .........ridiculous idea , it's never worked for anything else they privatised .

[dave f]

i think this is a bout carrying lpg not a political debate stick to the original question

[robert mitchell]

the question was asked , get over it .

[Spruce]

How many window cleaners have had their vans go up in flames due to carrying gas and using a gas water heater?